CL, EL, Cups and non-EPL League discussion

And Liverpool are now out. Knocked out by a much improved PSG via PKs.

PSG are real contenders for the CL this year.

Don’t tell anyone, but I got three out of the four matches on my TV yesterday via YouTubeTV. Two were on the Spanish channels.

I’m generally getting CL matches via the Spanish language channels via my provider too.

That was a wild Madrid derby in the CL!

Los Blancos survive once again. 4-2 PKs

This is pretty questionable

Ball sensor says no


Do you believe that if Mbappe took that same PK with zero video evidence that it would have been overturned? I do not.

It would have been because the data is recorded and validated.

You can’t get around that one.

It was clear and obvious then?

It doesnt have to be clear and obvious

He touched it twice.

And the trajectory was cleary upwards. You only do that when you slip (I speak from experience here having played for many years)

Alvarez also knew what happened. He just played a bit dumb as he was hoping it might be missed.

Wow, you played in La Liga?

Surely a single frame of the double touch can be shown on film then. Send me one.

I have taken hundreds of penalty kicks in my time playing futbol over 30+ years.

Americans dont really have the same level of experience.

On grass, when one of your cleats slips and you go to kick
you slide into the ball. Thats what happened to Alvarez.

And thats when the ball goes upwards.

Same thing happened to John Terry. He just slid even more which messed up his kick to a much greater extent.

Well there are some professional players disagreeing here that did more than take PKs in high school.

They can say what they like.

Reddit has slowed it down frame by frame. Its obvious there.

Left foot cleat slides when he plants foot to kick.

Left foot almost touches ball just as he is about to hit it with his right foot.

And he then hits its with his right foot (1st touch) with an upward trajectory as the ball hits his sliding left foot (2nd touch).

Unlucky for sure. But all very obvious if you go frame by frame.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1j9x85g/juliĂĄn_alvarez_disallowed_penalty_frame_by_frame/

Your link seems to say what you wrote above about the chip was bullshit

"Confirmed on Paramount Plus that they don’t have a chip in the ball (it was said verbatim).

They use additional cameras for semiautomated offside technology to see the double touch. I wish we could see those images, it may look pretty obvious from a lower angle.

The rule is kind of shit though, everybody was slipping on that pitch."

Still haven’t seen the shot, but thanks for the confirmation

I don’t think you should take Paramount Plus as a source for anything.

This is a UEFA game. You can just look it up via their website.

Hey, they were both your links

The link was more for the video. It showed a decent enough close up using frame by frame.

Redditors tend to post silly stuff sometimes when commenting on stuff like this.

Indeed. You might even see former Canadian high school soccer players claiming to be the world’s foremost experts on the game.

I played in Spain, US, UK, and Canada.

You really are barking up the wrong tree here.

Anybody with experience playing soccer understands precisely what happened.

This is fairly basic stuff but I could see how an American could have some trouble with it. Not really your sport.