Bridge: MSC 2025 Discussion

Had missed this thread. Apologies.

A: Pass. Maybe I try to be too coy on these, but without support for partner, and with RHO having spades, I think it may be unlikely either side has a fit. So tempted to let them hang themselves and leave them underestimating me. Is that a bad mindset?

B: 2C. Seems enough to show basic support for partner’s suit and my moderate level of strength.

C: Pass. This might be too conservative. But this feels like we will rarely have enough for game. Sure, I can imagine it. But I imagine us going down more often than not. And my hand may have some defensive value if Opps decide to jump in.

D: Double. I was thinking 2D with the basic 2/1 requirements, but I like double slightly better because it allows me to show my 4 spades at a cheaper spot.

E: Double? Not even entirely sure if this would imply for penalty or takeout. It feels like we should get a plus score here. Partner knows I have 5 hearts and 3 spades. Pass would be my other consideration.

F: 3NT. May just gamble with 3NT. Spades is a big risk, but West has to lead. Not being able to access any help from partner may also be a problem. But I likely have 9 NT tricks myself as long as I can stop spades (assuming west doesn’t open with a spade lead.

G: 3NT. I’m unsure, but 2NT is likely invitational and may let partner pass, but I think we have enough to play in 3NT. Obviously we likely have no fit at all with partner and that could become a problem. But hoping we have enough individual strength to carry.

H: D4. My initial thought is to try to knock out East’s ability to access West’s diamond power. Maybe I am off base. 4D=Natural makes me nervous that it doesn’t imply diamond length and weakness, but rather diamond length and strength??

From VVV by e-mail

A) Rdbl
B) 2C
C) Pass
D) Dbl
E) Pass
F) 3NT
G) 3C
H) Club 4

From VVV by e-mail

A. Redouble. Show some strength, hopefully not promising more than this. 1S seems wrong when East has shown 4
B. 2C. Support with support
C. P. Too weak to bid
D. 2D
E. P. Not gaining much with a double, and potentially losing a lot.
F. P. Even vul at imps, with likely misfit
G. 3D
H. D9. Maybe partner ruffs round 2, or even round 1.
                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                                                          
oirg                                                                    
SW                            Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P     P    3D    D9
Klaymen                                                                 
ST                                                                      
BTDT                          Rdbl    2C     P   Dbl     P   3NT    3C    C4
NN                                                                      
veni vidi vici                Rdbl    2C    1S   Dbl   Dbl   3NT    3C    C4
Leading                       Rdbl    2C                                    

A) XX
B) 2C
C) P
D) 2D
E) P
F) 3H
G) 2N
H) C4

From NN by e-mail

                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                                                          
oirg                                                                    
SW                            Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P     P    3D    D9
Klaymen                       Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P    3H    2N    C4
ST                                                                      
BTDT                          Rdbl    2C     P   Dbl     P   3NT    3C    C4
NN                            Rdbl    1N    1S    2D     P    3D    3D    H6
veni vidi vici                Rdbl    2C    1S   Dbl   Dbl   3NT    3C    C4
Leading                       Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P                C4

Now with leaders on 6 of 8 (But 2 leaders are only by 3-2, so next voter could create a tie.)

A. 1NT. Upper end of range, but shows hand well and implies two card support which I would like pd to know about. Redouble wider range of hands, so don’t like that call.
B. 1NT. Shape says minors but lots of queens says nt.
C. 1 spade. A good partner won’t bid 2D next :slight_smile:
D. 2 diamonds. A little lighter/shorter than I like for 2 level overcall, but with these spots, taking up max room, and MPs makes me do it.
E. Double. If the opps don’t make any doubled contracts, you aren’t doubling enough.
F. 3NT. Could be convinced 3 diamonds is better.
G. 2NT.
H. Hearts six. Want to set up tricks before they pull trumps and run diamonds.

April guesses:

A. 1N
B. 1N
C. Pass
D. Pass
E. Double
F. Pass
G. 3C
H. Heart 6

                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                1NT   1NT    1S    2D   Dbl   3NT    2N    H6
oirg                          1NT   1NT     P     P   Dbl     P    3C    H6
SW                            Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P     P    3D    D9
Klaymen                       Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P    3H    2N    C4
ST                                                                      
BTDT                          Rdbl    2C     P   Dbl     P   3NT    3C    C4
NN                            Rdbl   1NT    1S    2D     P    3D    3D    H6
veni vidi vici                Rdbl    2C    1S   Dbl   Dbl   3NT    3C    C4
Abstract Actuary              P    2C     P   Dbl   Dbl   3NT   3NT    D4
Leading                       Rdbl    2C     P    2D         3NT    3C      

again with 2 tied

From ST e-mail

                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                1NT   1NT    1S    2D   Dbl   3NT    2N    H6
oirg                          1NT   1NT     P     P   Dbl     P    3C    H6
SW                            Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P     P    3D    D9
Klaymen                       Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P    3H    2N    C4
ST                            Rdbl    2C     P    2D   Dbl    3D    2N    H6
BTDT                          Rdbl    2C     P   Dbl     P   3NT    3C    C4
NN                            Rdbl   1NT    1S    2D     P    3D    3D    H6
veni vidi vici                Rdbl    2C    1S   Dbl   Dbl   3NT    3C    C4
Abstract Actuary              P    2C     P   Dbl   Dbl   3NT   3NT    D4
Leading                       Rdbl    2C     P    2D   Dbl   3NT          H6

One still tied. Last chance for lobbying.

Doesn’t change anything, but I’ll lead the 9 of diamonds instead of the 4. I still think a diamond lead can be pretty valuable. Trying to take away east’s entries to west’s strengths.

From 4Sigma by e-mail

                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                1NT   1NT    1S    2D   Dbl   3NT    2N    H6
oirg                          1NT   1NT     P     P   Dbl     P    3C    H6
SW                            Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P     P    3D    D9
Klaymen                       Rdbl    2C     P    2D     P    3H    2N    C4
ST                            Rdbl    2C     P    2D   Dbl    3D    2N    H6
BTDT                          Rdbl    2C     P   Dbl     P   3NT    3C    C4
NN                            Rdbl   1NT    1S    2D     P    3D    3D    H6
veni vidi vici                Rdbl    2C    1S   Dbl   Dbl   3NT    3C    C4
Abstract Actuary              P    2C     P   Dbl   Dbl   3NT   3NT    D9
Submitted                     Rdbl    2C     P    2D   Dbl   3NT    3C    H6

I broke the tie on G based on 4Sigma’s preference for 3C, which would also be my preference. (4Sigma referred to 3C vs 3NT, when the actual tie is 3C vs 2NT, but since his preference is based on having partner declare NT, that sounds to me like still a preference for 3C.)

                  A        B        C        D        E        F        G        H        Total
procrastinator    1NT  0   1NT  80  1S   100 2D   90  Dbl  100 3NT  70  2N   100 H6   100 640  
oirg              1NT  0   1NT  80  P    80  P    60  Dbl  100 P    80  3C   80  H6   100 580  
SW                Rdbl 100 2C   100 P    80  2D   90  P    70  P    80  3D   70  D9   80  670  
Klaymen           Rdbl 100 2C   100 P    80  2D   90  P    70  3H   70  2N   100 C4   70  680  
ST                Rdbl 100 2C   100 P    80  2D   90  Dbl  100 3D   100 2N   100 H6   100 770  
BTDT              Rdbl 100 2C   100 P    80  Dbl  100 P    70  3NT  70  3C   80  C4   70  670  
NN                Rdbl 100 1NT  80  1S   100 2D   90  P    70  3D   100 3D   70  H6   100 710  
veni vidi vici    Rdbl 100 2C   100 1S   100 Dbl  100 Dbl  100 3NT  70  3C   80  C4   70  720  
4Sigma            1NT  0   2C   100 1S   100 2D   90  Dbl  100 3D   100 3D   70  D9   80  640  
Abstract Actuary  P    50  2C   100 P    80  Dbl  100 Dbl  100 3NT  70  3NT  0   D9   80  580  
Submitted         Rdbl 100 2C   100 P    80  2D   90  Dbl  100 3NT  70  3C   80  H6   100 720  


                                                                               
                  Rdbl 100 2C   100 1S   100 Dbl  100 Dbl  100 3D   100 2N   100 H6   100   
                  P    50  1NT  80  P    80  2D   90  P    70  P    80  3C   80  D9   80       
                  1NT  0                     P    60           3H   70  3D   70  C4   70       
                                                               3NT  70  3NT  0                 
                                                                                               

ST’s 770 would tie for 3/4 on the Honor Roll (there were two 780’s). VVV’s and submitted’s 720s would tie for 43-66, the lowest score to make it.

Zero for 1NT on A? That seems pretty harsh.