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And I suppose you also think George Clooney is more attractive than Kevin James?!

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Obviously.

But for example here are the People’s sexiest man of the year for the last 10 years-
Chris Evans - I would have thought a solid 8
Paul Rudd - didn’t think he was there, maybe a low 7 high 6
Michael B Jordan - yeah, I see why he won. Probably a 10.
John Legend - Don’t see it at all. Would have said a 5/6.
Idris Elba - Around a 8-9
Blake Shelton - 6
Dwayne Johnson - Similar to Chris Evans, 8ish
David Beckham - get it, would have put him at the top too. 10
Chris Hemsworth - get it, 9-10
Adam Levine - get it, 9-10

So while there are some obvious ones that I very much understand, there are some rated as “the sexiest man of the year” that I look at and have no idea why they were picked. So it’s confusing.

I don’t think it’s as confusing as you think.

I don’t think Paul Rudd is cute either, but I know people who have him as their #1 sex idol.

I think we’re talking about generality here. There’s going to be disagreement on basically every single person.

But you and I should agree on…maybe 7/10 people we consider hot. And when it’s in a context of relativity, it should be even easier.

Fair. I guess similar to views on attractiveness of women and disagreement there.

I know that if I were to lose weight and put on some muscle it would improve my looks. I don’t need to know where I am on the scale now or where exactly I would be afterwards to know that it would be higher.

Like MA - I have no clue on hair or clothes. I don’t personally see them making that much of a difference, but we’ve already established that I don’t really know what makes a difference anyway.

I have no doubt that I could be taught how to recognize attractiveness in guys. I could probably put in some effort and come up with my own system. I’ve just never had a need or desire to put in any effort there.

I could tell a 10 from a 1. I could probably get within about 3 points (10 v 7, 8 v 5, etc). I don’t think I could do much finer grades than that though.

There isnt just one set score for every person. Its based on opinion. I dont see how being sexually attracted or not means you lose the ability to think a person is prettier than another person

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It doesn’t. That was the point of the story.

BTW - I don’t remember the context completely. It might have been something about a “crush” or “someone I would consider to marry” or something like that instead of just “attractiveness”.

I didnt get your point about not being able to tell 10 vs 9. Thats entirely based on opinion.

Basically, I have 4 categories: Ugly, Below Average, Above Average, Model/Movie Heartthrob-esque.

I don’t think I can do any ranking more granular than that. For the most part, the “below” and “above” average guys bleed together, so I might not even be able to make that distinction very well.

The main thing is - I don’t care how relatively good-looking different guys are. It’s not something I put much thought into at all.

I’d use the analogy of noticing subtle color differences. If a person has a name for a bunch of subtly different colors, and is in the practice of noticing them, then the color differences will be obvious. Without the vocabulary and practice, they will all look the same.

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I almost wrote something about your Kevin James crush but I refrained. Yes, I find Clooney more attractive.

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Well women are hardly unanimous in their views either. See: NerdAlert / Kevin James.

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the worshipping of george clooney puts him down a few points for me. it’s annoying.

Heart, for potential cat fight.

I don’t think I care how relatively good-looking any groups of people are as I go about my day. But that doesn’t disrupt my ability to give an opinion when asked. I have an opinion regardless.

It seems like straight guys (like you) go out of their way to say that they don’t have an opinion on the looks of other guys.
There’s no objective 6 from an objective 4. Every rating is subjective. But to say you don’t even have an opinion is just weird. At the very least, you can say “they look about the same to me”.

Given what MA and you have said so far, it seems like you guys do have an opinion. But somehow you’ve convinced yourselves that you don’t.

I don’t see how saying how attractive a person is outside of sexual attraction is much different than saying how pretty a painting is or a house or whatever. it’s still something you can access.

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When about 80-90% of guys fit into this category…

I’ve admitted that I “could” have an opinion if I bothered to put any care or effort into it. It’s just not at all important to me.

It’s just something I don’t consciously think about / notice 90% of the time. If asked I can recall and judge- I like the color analogy. I do consciously notice how strong other men are upon seeing them though- that’s usually the first thing I consciously notice about a man. Whereas the first thing I consciously notice about a woman is her attractiveness.