2023-24 NCAA Women's Basketball Discussion

If you’re being elitist, then yes.

Well, then. In that case, I’m watching NASCAR.

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Why not both?

Flying from Cleveland to Phoenix you gain 2 hours so you don’t have to leave too early on Saturday or Monday (Could probably stay for the eclipse and leave after that). Oh, wait, the Sunday Women’s Championship looks like it starts at 3pm ET so you might have to leave kinda early on the flight from Phoenix back to Cleveland. But he is probably able to fly private so that shouldn’t be a problem.

No, but he had to choose.
Why? Nobody knows.

Clark needs teammates to step up so Conn defense has to sluff off her.

Yeah, it’s on a TV that i can see, so I’m watching. SueBird me

So you think UConn dance?

No, actually. No UConn not.

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We don’t have a WNBA thread, so here is where it goes:

So, can she negotiate this? Shit I would, given that many of the Fever games are already scheduled to be nationally televised.

I’m not saying every WNBA player deserves more money, but Caitlin is drawing eyeballs and consumer dollars. She has leverage.

Where what goes???

I’m getting to it!!

For some reason, I Ctrl-V and instead of pasting, it submits my post.

She (her agent) could have absolutely demanded more for the reasons you listed. I think there’s an additional $400k-ish/yr she could make from marketing and other incentives? Someone correct me if I’m wrong, that info came from social media.

Personally, I think she accepted that contract knowing she still has all of her endorsement money coming in.

i think the wnba has some exceptions for contracts, but maybe not on rookie deals? and she could make a stink about it, but that might kill some of the buzz and favorable Q rating.

She (and/or her agent) should work behind the scenes on this.
Then again, she will make way more money than this on endorsements. And that is a different skill than her already-honed shooting.

From the article:

"The WNBA currently makes about $60 million a year from its media rights, a contract that’s set to expire in 2025, according to Front Office Sports.

In comparison, the NBA is in the midst of a $24 billion television deal that pays $2.7 billion annually. Plus, the league is expected to command between $60 billion and $72 billion when it renegotiates its TV deal this summer, according to Sports Business Journal.

For WNBA salaries to get in the ballpark with NBA salaries, Master said, viewership needs to rise dramatically.

“(The rise in ratings) can’t be 5-10 percent,” Master said. “It needs to be like 400 or 500 percent growth.”

So her current salary is commensurate with the current economics…if her presence actually does increase the popularity ($$$) of the WNBA, I’d expect that her next contract will reflect that.

Paraphrasing a comment I read elsewhere…I hope all of the people who are outraged go out and buy WNBA merchandise and maybe go to a game or two.

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Agreed. It sucks that WNBA salaries are so much lower than NBA salaries but you can’t argue the economics.

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I’ll watch a WNBA game before I ever watch anything NBA.

But I’m in the vast minority there.

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Well, it means you, a coach, would have to do more work.
If that is “ruining” a whole sport, well, then you’re a lazy bum.
Maybe the sport needs to be ruined, and the players making the entertainment should get paid for it instead of you getting paid millions.

“I don’t know that our game can continue to move forward if all of a sudden our guys are gone,” Auriemma said. “So I like the rule, and the players decided the rule. So if they change the rule, God bless 'em, but I think it’ll ruin the game.”

Well, OTHER players, not college players, made the rule, to protect their own jobs from being replaced by younger and better players. Oh, they get replaced, just a few years later.

I don’t care either way about the rule, but is it something that makes sense for the players? Caitlin Clark made at least $3.1 million last year from NIL, and I’m not sure that she would have made that from endorsements had she gone pro after her freshman year and had a couple years in the WNBA. Or in other words, I think the college game gets more exposure than the WNBA, and is better for developing endorsements.

Depends on if someone was willing to pay her to play basketball. Downside is those teams that will pay are in shithole countries that put players in jail for pot pens.
Not allowing the market to decide is bad, in general. The rule helps people with a vested interest in keeping players where they are, playing at a very low pay level. So, coaches, uber-fans, and WNBA players. Simple as that.