“♪♪The answer, my friend, is lowing in the wind…”
I missed this, not surprising given how little attention I pay to the news! My local Walgreen’s has been advertising walk-in Moderna shots for months, and when I got my flu shot there it took all of 15 minutes, so I guess I’ll head over there sometime this week.
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I’m not sure if this is sarcasm since this would not fit as sarcasm in this convo, but tennessee is trying to make it so vaccinated people cannot get monoclonal antibodies, only unvaccinated people.
Eh, my friends who work in hospitals have a lot of stories about people begging for vaccines when they’re on ventilators. Maybe not your friend, but many of the ones that survive may well change their tune on vaccination.
Were they true antivaxxers or were they vaccine hesitant or “just never got around to it” people? Those 2 groups seem pretty different, IMO.
I don’t know many full out antivaxxers, so I may be wrong. I don’t even know this guy and his wife. My husband is FB friends with him, so he’s following what’s going on. This lady is pretty clearly a militant antivaxxer.
There now appears to be a cure for the vaccine: bathe in Borax. Also kills the nano-technology in the vaccines as well.
'cuz tiktok posters >>>>> Science.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article255771071.html
Yeah, but that’s what THEY want you to think!
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Borax is fairly safe. I’ll take it.
“No True Antivaxxer…”
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I would actually like to be wrong about this one.
Numbered for convenience.
(1) This is essentially unknowable; however, based on one of your posts, it looks like he did not even get his household family members (wife + 2 kids) sick, so doesn’t really seem “likely” he spread to others. I would only see it as wrong if he knowingly went out and exposed people while symptomatic (like this “expert” kinda did) Even if he unknowingly exposed others before he had symptoms, those others could have been jabbed, so they’d have nothing to worry about, right? And if they weren’t jabbed, f#$% 'em, right?
(2) I don’t know your friend, but if it was people at the gym he exposed while he was asymptomatic/presymptomatic, it’s quite unlikely that he “killed” any of them. How many times in the past have you been part of a chain of illness transmission that might have ultimately killed someone? Ever go to work, or the store/pharmacy, or the doctor’s office when you had flu-like symptoms? Did you ever worry about how you might have made someone else sick who might have subsequently died? Me neither.
(3) Just because someone doesn’t take the same steps you take, doesn’t mean they don’t “take covid seriously.” Looks like he (and entire family) quarantined while he had symptoms, so it’s not like he was completely flouting basic health measures.
(4) If it was about wanting him to “learn a lesson” for his edification, that would be one thing, but wishing severe harm on people is generally frowned upon in polite society, if not viewed as outright evil. Or at least, I thought that was a common view, but at least two mods, in their unquestionable wisdom, appear to support as a virtue wishing harm upon people, so I might be wrong. 
(5) It looks like it was no big deal to him, and, because of the robust & durable immunity he now has, it can be even less of a big deal to him in the future, at least for him personally. As of now, covid remains a big deal at the population level. We’ll see how big a deal it continues to be at the population level as (or if?) it reaches endemicity.
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You realize that vaccination reduces the probability you will get sick, it’s not an on/off switch, right?
I hope you aren’t counting me in that. I think it’s wrong to wish harm on people. Even people who take dumb risks. I may have been too pissed at what you posted to be moderating other stuff at the time, though.
We’ll see how it plays out, but I’m hoping that a 3 dose vaccine series, (or recovery + two doses) with annual boosters for those who are old or otherwise at high risk, will bring it down to a nuisance for most. It’ll help the immune compromised if most of the rest of us stay mostly-immune, though.
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uh, when did i wish “severe harm” on this guy? also, yes, if i have flu-like symptoms i certainly should be careful where i go and who i expose. covid has brought this to light. i don’t know that he quarantined the entire time. if he didn’t, he wouldn’t admit to that on facebook. i have some evidence that he was at the gym the day before he claimed to have symptoms, so it’s a good guess he had symptoms at the gym. in the post covid environment, yes, if i feel like i have covid symptoms, there is no way i’m going to the gym to expose people. i’m going to get a covid test instead.
he lived his life with no precautions. to me that’s not taking covid seriously. in the end, maybe he quarantined some, maybe not the entire time, i don’t know. all i know is when i talked to him one on one he flat out said he wasn’t taking precautions against covid and was just living his life and not getting vaccinated. that’s not taking it seriously.
Maybe if you stopped reading things into my posts that aren’t there and then using your misinterpretations to accuse me of lying (or your recent euphemism “misstatements”), your head would be clear enough to stop condoning wishing people ill. At least, that’s how I read your rebuff of my response to Ms. fan’s post. I’d be happy to be corrected on that.
not that I was “wishing ill”, but is it against the rules of this forum to wish ill on people who don’t post on this forum at all and have no link to the profession? If so, I was unaware of this.
You have consistently minimized the impact of the pandemic. Someone says they got covid, you ask “were you actually sick?” The post you made recently that pissed me off was one where you were (as I read it) suggesting that ao fan needs to learn that covid isn’t a big deal.
ao fan wishing that this guy were sicker is a tacky sentiment, imho, but I don’t think it’s actually against the forum rules. Your post wasn’t against the rules, either, it was just rude to anyone to whom covid IS a big deal. Again, imo.
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Hmm?
Who said anything about forum rules? It’s basic human decency.
it’s also basic human decency to do your best not to spread covid, which this guy didn’t care much about.
here’s your exact quote. i didn’t wish “severe harm” on him.