Will you get the vaccine as soon as available to you?

I will read it, just have to deal with some meetings and what not today. Thought you’d want the news ASAP!

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I will be less cynical and say that the 3-week time frame was set in order to get as many people “fully vaccinated” as soon as possible so that we could reach herd immunity faster. The fallacy is the assumption that 80%+ of adult Americans would choose to get the vaccine when eligible. I got mine 3 weeks apart. My wife got hers 6 weeks apart, which was at the high-end of the recommended time frame. This delay was not due to extensive research, but rather to have the side affects take place at a more convenient time. However, we did consult many people about the 6-week difference not being an issue.

appreciated! :heart:

I know this post was a few days old, but I assume you are asking about a “logical” argument? I think some people would still reject the FDA approval, saying its fast-tracking was outside of the normal parameters and is invalid.

I edited your post to fix the quote box. Both the start and end “[quote]” thing need to be on their own line, with nothing else.

I think this, plus some people think the vaccines are dangerous. I’ve seen the VAERS data interpreted in some unbelievable ways.

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I actually think it was mostly to get done with the testing as fast as possible, because Pfizer wanted to be first to market. And they used as little “active ingredient” as possible in part to be able to sell as many doses as possible as fast as possible.

Pfizer/BioNTech has vast resources, and could make those gambles. In contrast, Moderna was a brand new company that had never successfully sold a product, and they used a larger dose and the more traditional 4 weeks in testing in large part (I would guess) because they wanted to be really damn sure to maximize their chances of approval.

(And J&J was late to market. They originally planned a 2-dose vaccine, like the others. But when they saw that they got decent results with a single dose I suspect they decided to market “one and done” as a market advantage.)

Those are all the non-cynical reasons for how each company with an EUA in the US made its decisions. But it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Pfizer was also thinking of boosters from the start, and didn’t WANT to have their vaccine last as long as possible.

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There’s also always been the possibility variants would require later boosters anyway.

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I had that thought when I saw that Moderna was lasting longer than Pfizer. I believe they didn’t really experiment with different intervals… just picked one and tested to see if it seemed to work.

Wishing I got Moderna now, but I didn’t have a choice. Oh well.

I got my Pfizer at Walgreens back in April when they were still doing four weeks.

Not sure what that is worth…

Possibly quite a lot.

For the up front cost of taking an extra week to hit your fully protected date, your protection could end up being more robust as you approach the 8 month mark.

Now I wish I’d waited too.

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My parents (both >70 years old) got their Pfizer boosters today.

They called their clinic to ask about it this morning and the clinic told them to come on in and no appointments were needed. They showed up and were in and out in less than 20 minutes.

They live in a very red area. Only 50% of their county >12 is fully vaxxed and only 2/3rds of over 65 are fully vaxxed. But there probably is a fair amount of prior infection immunity helping out the area as well.

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My dad (96) went to CVS to get his flu shot. He over heard someone say I’ll see you tomorrow to get the booster. (I think he thought they were coming in tomorrow.) anyway they told him he either had to get them both, or wait a week, so he got them both

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So boosters are still not available for J&J or Moderna?

Correct

I’m confused about Moderna… I thought that it had shown to have immunity that barely deteriorated. Yet, I saw they submitted data for a booster. Do the Moderna folks even need a booster? If their immunity isn’t waning… why do they need one?

yeah, I’d love to know the answer to that. I’d rather not put my father through another COVID shot if it is unnecessary. He got pretty sick from the first 2 doses of Moderna, on top of actually having had COVID. So…does he really need a booster? Also, when you test for antibodies, how reliable is that for how protected you are? My mother got tested for antibodies in July or so, and her antibodies were very high still from Moderna. Not sure about right now though.

They really need to give guidance on if this booster is necessary at all. Also, in NYC you’re required to be vaccinated to go anywhere, so they need to decide rules on this if a booster isn’t necessary. Don’t give people boosters they don’t need just for the sake of it.

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My coworker would like you to know, it’s not technically a booster. It’s the 3rd dose in a 3 dose regimen.

I think there’s still some question as to whether it’s the third dose in a three dose regimen, like hepatitis, or the first of a series of booster shots, like the flu.

We won’t really know for several months.