What is your COVID vaccine position?

Pro-life?

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If you and Lucy want more options, build your own poll.

Kind of like this thread.

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This is why i would not be in favor of requiring people to be vaccinated to fly, for example.

I am not against making unvaccinated people wear a mask when flying though (as a rule, which would need exceptions.)

I do not have a problem requiring vaccinations for in person work or school though.

Under some circumstances i might be in favor of more absolutely forced vaccination, for example a small pox outbreak.

But, not a big pox outbreak? I’d think the latter would be worse.

They are bigger so you see them coming much more easily. You just step out of the way.

A pox on both your houses

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Ah.
Good to know how to avoid the pox!

It’s a crappy poll tbh. But you deserve credit for starting a thread, so good job!

Unvaccinated employees are costing employers $billions in medical care right now. I don’t think there is a similar argument to be made for flu-shots or MMR, unless the job deals with a vulnerable population.

I am in favor of ā€˜wellness’ type programs, where you get free $$$$$ for being healthy. But it does run into some serious cherry-picking issues since ā€œbeing unhealthyā€ is hard to fix.

Fat employees are costing billions in medical care too. And once this mandate is accepted, how would you go about preventing mandates on other things, including, but not exclusive to, the annual flu shot? Or are you in favor of that? I don’t know, maybe you are.

I’m against the government mandate on employers.

I’m okay with employers mandating flu-shots. If they got really mandate crazy about it I’d demand that they demonstrate some kind of cost savings.

Fat employees cost a lot of money, but most fat people already wish they were thin. So a thin-person mandate isn’t that useful as an incentive.

ā€œIncentiveā€ is irrelevant. If they’re costing money, why shouldn’t the company require them to shed the pounds or get out?

Every health care provider i use mandates their employees get annual flu shots, unless they are allergic to it.

This isn’t a new thing.

If they are incapable of shedding pounds, then the mandate would be nothing more than a way to avoid providing health care.

If employers could just dodge health care costs by dumping sick/old/pregnant people, then the healthcare system would collapse.

FWIW, I don’t think what you’re suggesting is crazy, but it’s not quite the same as a mandate that actually results in less people going to the hospital.

Many health actuaries have found themselves subject to that same get the flu shot or get fired mandate. I have at a previous employer as an actuary over a decade ago.

Many private schools do, as well.

When i went to college i needed a note from my doctor that I’d been vaccinated for measles.

I’m in favor of private organizations requiring whatever vaccinations they think are important for employees, attendees, whatever.

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I’m a little confused how vaccine requirements became controversial, honestly. I needed to be fully vaccinated with all the standard childhood stuff to attend my public school system.

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Internet + Gullibility

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I did include ā€œbut not exclusive toā€ when using the annual flu shot as an example.

Do you consider the COVID vaccine ā€œstandardā€? I’m willing to bet that a lot of the people who are hesitant to get the shot are not at a place where they consider it standard yet.