If you are worried about your job, it’s not too hard for an actuary to hang out a shingle and work as a self-employed consultant.
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That is an odd comment.
you okay?
Hasn’t the core message of liberals been to hate on Trump and his supporters?
They love Trump and his supporters. That’s why they want to force - I mean mandate - vaccines on them.
Depends on the liberal, but yes, many do fall prey to this. Like, I just left a pro-mask Facebook group because it rather quickly morphed into an anti-conservative group.
I commented that we should look at Trump-supporting pro-life anti-CRT blue lives matter folks who agree that masking is important and welcome them with open arms. They would probably be more effective members of our group because of who listens to them. Those comments fell on deaf ears.
That said, for the most part you don’t see the liberal bashing of conservatives start at the top and work its way down like it has with Trump.
I mean, there was Hillary Clinton’s cringeworthy “basket of deplorables” comment, but that seems to be the exception rather than the rule. And she lost the POTUS election. Twice.
I haven’t seen Harris or Biden or Obama or Gore or Bill Clinton making those kinds of remarks.
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Interesting.
Trump generates a lot of controversy - it is part of his brand. His twitter feed was appalling and his off the cuff statements were usually not much better.
There is certainly a bothsides to this, but look at the level of outrage generated by the right towards “liberals”. A good example is the campaign against CRT and the school board meetings over the summer where parents, or in many cases people not even in the district, showed up to protest the teach of CRT, something that was practically non-existent. And the yelling at people in public that they are wearing a mask.
I agree his twitter was what most of the controversy was around. And to say the level of outrage was only one sided is a little crazy. I know a lot of people who voted for Biden because he “was not Trump.” Same goes for people that voted for Trump the first time because he “was not Hillary.” So I don’t think it is a one sided outrage. Neither side listens to each other and is just mad at the other side and just causes arguments instead of discussions
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It would be kind of funny if access to Twitter is what got Trump elected the first time, and then lack of access to Twitter turns out helping him get elected a second time.
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It would not be funny if Trump got elected a second time.
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Your comment about a pro-mask group devolving like it did certainly happens. We see it with the far-left crowd that wants uber-progressives running around the country, even in areas where uber-progressives have no shot in hell of ever winning.
But if we’re looking at things as a left/right divide, the left is still (and likely always will be) significantly more splintered as compared to the right. The left would struggle to get together to plan a 2-person parade, spotted one of the people; the right will band together on anything so long as it advances whatever they believe in at the moment, and especially if it pwns the libs.
Not voting for someone because of outrage is different from plots to kidnap governors and other extremism that seems to be cropping up on the right to the point where it’s top of the list for the FBI to track. A level down you have parents shouting at school board meetings and threats against poll workers and other public figures going on. Usually our politicians can freely call out these behaviors such as violence during BLM protests, but it seems to make for bad politics for republicans currently. Many of them can’t even discuss January 6 with honesty, We seem to have a grand total of 2 Republicans in the House that are willing to do it.
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The core message of Trump was to hate Liberals.
The core message of Liberals was to hate Trump back.
But note-- there’s millions of Liberals and just one Trump.
Liberals don’t want to hate all republicans. They want to hate that one solitary shithead. But Republicans are loyal, and supported their leader, even if they know he’s a shithead. That feedback-loop (Trump Hate-> Liberal Hate-> Republican Support) was Trump’s main political tactic, from his primary win all the way to the insurrection.
Now that he is gone from the picture (let’s pretend forever) the air is better. Democrats and Republicans don’t like each other, as usual, but the animosity isn’t there right now.
That is sort my my thought - I think the left has an intense hatred of Trump which has carried over to a handful of his props like Jordan, MTG, Hawley and Gaetz because they think NBD about Jan 6.
Outlets like Fox News seemed to have the pedal down on the culture war constantly. They created Trump through 20 years of talking how disgusting the liberal agenda was. When someone ran on that, the people voted for him.
Nitpick: people like MTG, Gaetz, Boebert, Hawley, Nunes, Cawthorn, etc. etc. etc. have fully embraced Trumpism and are trying to run further and further to the right to show how devoted they are to him. And, they’re attracting more like them.
Then you have people like Jordan and Gohmert who are dumber than dirt but have (R) after their name and are in strong GOP areas so they’ll get re-elected no matter what inane shit they say or do.
Then you have Ted Cruz who even fellow GOPers hate with a fucking passion because he’s a giant asshole, but has (R) behind his name and is in Texas where Democrats are struggling - learning slowly, but still struggling - to put together a statewide ground game to get people like him out.
Agreed that Fox is perpetually waging a culture war and it eventually led to where we are, but Trump hit the fast-forward button on it by a few decades and turned anything the left does or is alleged to have done into a reason to be outraged, but NBD if the right does the exact same thing or worse.
I am assuming you think it is republicans shouting at school board meetings by that comment? But I live in a state that had a “mask mandate restriction” where county’s could not issue a mask mandate for schools. In those school board meetings there was lots of shouting too. But this was not from those “crazy trump supporters and anti-vaxxers” because it was the other way around. They wanted a mask mandate and couldn’t have it. Again I will state, it goes both ways but each side only wants to see it as one sided.
Side note; after the 2016 election wasn’t there many protests because he was “not my president” that resulted in acts that I would also call “extremism” like breaking into buildings as such. I will talk about Jan 6 with honesty, some people trespassed and broke into private property, just like what happened after 2016 election. It happened to be a congress building instead of Joe Smo business he has ran for 50 years in a town in the midwest so it made bigger headlines. Do I think they were trying to do a coup? Honestly no, I think they just wanted to disrupt some things and it got way too ugly. They should go to jail because of it. Again I will state, it goes both ways but each side only wants to see it as one sided.
Can you link to a citation or two?
Just did a google search and here was the first two that came up
Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide (usatoday.com)
‘Not Our President’: Protests Spread After Donald Trump’s Election - The New York Times (nytimes.com)