What If We're The Bad Guys Here?

This is an interesting op-ed. The general gist is: “Members of our [anti-Trumper] class are always publicly speaking out for the marginalized, but somehow we always end up building systems that serve ourselves.”

Could it possibly be true that the educated anti-Trump, often progressive class are the bad guys? There seems to be some truth in the idea that they themselves created the conditions for the right-wing populism they now despise.

One idea that resonated with me was the self-segregation into certain cities like SF, DC, LA, and Austin. Anecdotally it seems to me that political identity is often driven by one’s environment and social circle. I was also surprised to read stats on how elitist the journalism profession has become.

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Donald Trump seems to get indicted on a weekly basis. Yet he is utterly dominating his Republican rivals in the polls, and he is tied with Joe Biden in the general election surveys. Trump’s poll numbers are stronger against Biden now than at any time in 2020.

What’s going on here? Why is this guy still politically viable, after all he’s done?

We anti-Trumpers often tell a story to explain that. It was encapsulated in a quote the University of North Carolina political scientist Marc Hetherington gave to my colleague Thomas B. Edsall recently: “Republicans see a world changing around them uncomfortably fast, and they want it to slow down, maybe even take a step backward. But if you are a person of color, a woman who values gender equality or an L.G.B.T. person, would you want to go back to 1963? I doubt it.”

In this story, we anti-Trumpers are the good guys, the forces of progress and enlightenment. The Trumpers are reactionary bigots and authoritarians. Many Republicans support Trump no matter what, according to this story, because at the end of the day, he’s still the bigot in chief, the embodiment of their resentments and that’s what matters to them most.

I partly agree with this story, but it’s also a monument to elite self-satisfaction.

So let me try another story on you. I ask you to try on a vantage point in which we anti-Trumpers are not the eternal good guys. In fact, we’re the bad guys.

This story begins in the 1960s, when high school grads had to go off to fight in Vietnam but the children of the educated class got college deferments. It continues in the 1970s, when the authorities imposed busing on working-class areas in Boston but not on the upscale communities like Wellesley where they themselves lived.

The ideal that we’re all in this together was replaced with the reality that the educated class lives in a world up here and everybody else is forced into a world down there. Members of our class are always publicly speaking out for the marginalized, but somehow we always end up building systems that serve ourselves.

The most important of those systems is the modern meritocracy. We built an entire social order that sorts and excludes people on the basis of the quality that we possess most: academic achievement. Highly educated parents go to elite schools, marry each other, work at high-paying professional jobs and pour enormous resources into our children, who get into the same elite schools, marry each other and pass their exclusive class privileges down from generation to generation.

Daniel Markovits summarized years of research in his book “The Meritocracy Trap”: “Today, middle-class children lose out to the rich children at school, and middle-class adults lose out to elite graduates at work. Meritocracy blocks the middle class from opportunity. Then it blames those who lose a competition for income and status that, even when everyone plays by the rules, only the rich can win.”

The meritocracy isn’t only a system of exclusion; it’s an ethos. During his presidency, Barack Obama used the word “smart” in the context of his policies over 900 times. The implication was that anybody who disagreed with his policies (and perhaps didn’t go to Harvard Law) must be stupid.

Over the last decades, we’ve taken over whole professions and locked everybody else out. When I began my journalism career in Chicago in the 1980s, there were still some old crusty working-class guys around the newsroom. Now we’re not only a college-dominated profession; we’re an elite-college-dominated profession. Only 0.8 percent of college students graduate from the super-elite 12 schools (the Ivy League colleges, plus Stanford, M.I.T., Duke and the University of Chicago). A 2018 study found that more than 50 percent of the staff writers at the beloved New York Times and The Wall Street Journal attended one of the 29 most elite universities in the nation.

Writing in Compact magazine, Michael Lind observes that the upper-middle-class job market looks like a candelabrum: “Those who manage to squeeze through the stem of a few prestigious colleges and universities in their youth can then branch out to fill leadership positions in almost every vocation.”

Or, as Markovits puts it, “elite graduates monopolize the best jobs and at the same time invent new technologies that privilege superskilled workers, making the best jobs better and all other jobs worse.”

Members of our class also segregate ourselves into a few booming metro areas: San Francisco, D.C., Austin and so on. In 2020, Biden won only 500 or so counties, but together they are responsible for 71 percent of the American economy. Trump won over 2,500 counties, responsible for only 29 percent. Once we find our cliques, we don’t get out much. In the book “Social Class in the 21st Century,” the sociologist Mike Savage and his co-researchers found that the members of the highly educated class tend to be the most insular, measured by how often we have contact with those who have jobs unlike our own.

Armed with all kinds of economic, cultural and political power, we support policies that help ourselves. Free trade makes the products we buy cheaper, and our jobs are unlikely to be moved to China. Open immigration makes our service staff cheaper, but new, less-educated immigrants aren’t likely to put downward pressure on our wages.

Like all elites, we use language and mores as tools to recognize one another and exclude others. Using words like “problematic,” “cisgender,” “Latinx” and “intersectional” is a sure sign that you’ve got cultural capital coming out of your ears. Meanwhile, members of the less-educated classes have to walk on eggshells because they never know when we’ve changed the usage rules so that something that was sayable five years ago now gets you fired.

We also change the moral norms in ways that suit ourselves, never mind the cost to others. For example, there used to be a norm that discouraged people from having children outside marriage, but that got washed away during our period of cultural dominance, as we eroded norms that seemed judgmental or that might inhibit individual freedom.

After this social norm was eroded, a funny thing happened. Members of our class still overwhelmingly married and had children within wedlock. People without our resources, unsupported by social norms, were less able to do that. As Adrian Wooldridge points out in his magisterial 2021 book, “The Aristocracy of Talent,” “Sixty percent of births to women with only a high school certificate occur out of wedlock, compared with only 10 percent to women with a university degree.” That matters, he continues, because “the rate of single parenting is the most significant predictor of social immobility in the country.”

Does this mean that I think the people in my class are vicious and evil? No. Most of us are earnest, kind and public-spirited. But we take for granted and benefit from systems that have become oppressive. Elite institutions have become so politically progressive in part because the people in them want to feel good about themselves as they take part in systems that exclude and reject.

It’s easy to understand why people in less-educated classes would conclude that they are under economic, political, cultural and moral assault — and why they’ve rallied around Trump as their best warrior against the educated class. He understood that it’s not the entrepreneurs who seem most threatening to workers; it’s the professional class. Trump understood that there was great demand for a leader who would stick his thumb in our eyes on a daily basis and reject the whole epistemic regime that we rode in on.

If distrustful populism is your basic worldview, the Trump indictments seem like just another skirmish in the class war between the professionals and the workers, another assault by a bunch of coastal lawyers who want to take down the man who most aggressively stands up to them. Of course, the indictments don’t cause Trump supporters to abandon him. They cause them to become more fiercely loyal. That’s the polling story of the last six months.

Are Trump supporters right that the indictments are just a political witch hunt? Of course not. As a card-carrying member of my class, I still basically trust the legal system and the neutral arbiters of justice. Trump is a monster in the way we’ve all been saying for years and deserves to go to prison.

But there’s a larger context here. As the sociologist E. Digby Baltzell wrote decades ago, “History is a graveyard of classes which have preferred caste privileges to leadership.” That is the destiny our class is now flirting with. We can condemn the Trumpian populists until the cows come home, but the real question is: When will we stop behaving in ways that make Trumpism inevitable?

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It’s an interesting take, and I do think there’s some truth to it. The term Latinx is certainly an amusing example of that kind of thing.

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I read that column and liked a lot about it.

Often in (fictional) stories about possession, the possessed person has to invite the demon in before it can possess them, often by committing some sin. That doesn’t change what the demon is, namely a demon.

Maybe this is how the educated “elite” helped “invite” Trump in. That doesn’t change what Trump is, either. And Brooks is careful to say that in the column (though not in so many words.)

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Yes, David Brooks is one of the bad guys.

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This opinion says that opinion is wrong and offers a few studies to support it.

Who is the “we” he is referring to?

“We anti-Trumpers”
First this is an accurate assessment but not the only assessment.

“it’s also a monument to elite self-satisfaction” So we are elite Anti-Trumpers.

“we anti-Trumpers are the good guys, the forces of progress and enlightenment. The Trumpers are reactionary bigots and authoritarians.” Trumpers are definitely authoritarians and mostly bigots in the most part. If you support the GOP leadership you support bigotry and authoritarianism.

“educated class lives in a world up here and everybody else is forced into a world down there. Members of our class are always publicly speaking out for the marginalized, but somehow we always end up building systems that serve ourselves.” The examples of the draft and busing do not differentiate between political spectrums. They do differentiate between classes (and race which we can leave be for now). So we is now elite, upper class. Since the upperclass is not completely anti-trump that definition falls away for now.

“We built an entire social order that sorts and excludes people on the basis of the quality that we possess most: academic achievement.” We here is equating highly educated with upper class and those with economic power, that is, the drivers of meritocracy.

Second this is an accurate assessment. I’ve bolded the most important point in this quote (and opinion piece).
“Today, middle-class children lose out to the rich children at school, and middle-class adults lose out to elite graduates at work. Meritocracy blocks the middle class from opportunity. Then it blames those who lose a competition for income and status that, even when everyone plays by the rules, only the rich can win.

“we’ve taken over whole professions” Yep. Journalists, actuaries, lawyers, even doctors.

If you can’t tell by now the “We” being discussed is the upper class. It is the wealthy, the owners. Yes, he is right. the upper class and the owners are the problem here. They have created or ignored all the problems that punish those below them. The game is rigged.

But that does not explain Trump and his supporters since Trump is part of that class. Trump does support economic and social policies that increase the divide between classes making things worse for that underclass. So why do they support him?

In short. In the face of their lost/threatened American Dream Trump gives people a white knight, a savior, to believe in. He allows them to sit in their misery/loss without action except support for him with the reward of believing that they are right and the others are wrong. They live the right way, the others cause all their problems.

Isn’t it fascinating how Trump, and almost all the upperclass, agree on one thing how bad socialism is? You know socialism, the thing that would actually help the underclass.

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I like that article too (which I have only had time to skim) but I think it misses the point. Maybe I read Brooks wrong.

The Vox article (not Brooks) references “Stranger in their own land.” I read that book, and liked it a lot.

But the economics are part of the cultural story told by that book.

It is a crisis of “honor”: what is an honorable, or “good”, life? The old story for working class men was to provide for a family, or failing that, to be in a good, faithful, heterosexual marriage.

This is exactly what elite culture has (arguably or apparently) attacked. Since at least the 1990s, white collar work that requires a college degree has been culturally valued more than more traditional blue collar work. Pay is part of it, but only part.

Similarly, programs for LGBTQ rights can seem to attack the value of traditional, monogamous, heterosexual marriage.

Finally, the newer push for diversity, equity and inclusion, with it’s emphasis on the appropriate choice of language that is acquired through a college education can seem to argue that anybody else is racist.

Some of these elements is what I read in Brooks’ column. I do not think it is a simply story of economic anxiety.

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Possibly, I visited a lot of rust belt and broken down cities and it’s clear to me a large part of America really has been left behind over the decades.

I don’t think Trump actually enacted any policies to help that demographic, but he sided with them and that’s how he won in 2016.

The Democrat stance is basically “get with the times and move to where the jobs are” which is what I agree with, but I wouldn’t expect that stance to get votes.

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It’s more like vote for us and we will bring the jobs to you. And that’s still too much effort for them.

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This is where i think a lot of the political divisiveness comes from. No liberal is attacking the white heterosexual male worker providing for his family. But the second a liberal supports anyone else because we all deserve the same, they say the white guy is being attacked.

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I’m not so sure.

What must it have sounded like in the 1990s, when NAFTA was going to make many manufacturing jobs disappear, and the D answer was “people should get better jobs, which take college degrees?” It seems to me it kind of elevates the kind of jobs you do in a white shirt with a college degree above the manufacturing jobs that are disappearing.

Similarly, abstract straight marriage may not be under criticism. But a more traditional marriage in which the man is in charge (or likes to view himself that way), and is stoically out of touch with his feelings- this certainly is disapproved of by the educated elite.

Even more recent calls for more equality: isn’t there a kind of elitism in that? It assumes a kind of societal progress, and who is the bringer of that progress? The educated elite who is helping the less educated learn that they are racist for not knowing what terms like “systemic racism” means.

There is definitely racism mixed in there as well for at least some people. But that isn’t all of it.

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“the D answer was “people should get better jobs, which take college degrees?”” what was the R answer? Either you believe in American Capitalism or you don’t. I would estimate 98% of elected officials, whatever the letter after their name, are all about the American capitalism.

“But a more traditional marriage in which the man is in charge (or likes to view himself that way)” not a problem assuming a willing woman, consenting adults get to live their life as they want to live.
“…and is stoically out of touch with his feelings” this is a problem, because it goes hand in hand with all sorts of social problems.

“Even more recent calls for more equality: isn’t there a kind of elitism in that?” - What the fuck? Seriously. The belief that people are not equal is taught, it is a cultural phenomenon. Every aspect of American culture, society, economy is damaged by inequality with the only benefactors the elites. Poor white folk do not benefit from systemic racism beyond the feeling of superiority it gives them. The elites do benefit as it is a means of controlling the population below them.

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I guess my point is that yes, the economic anxiety can be a real outcome of actual policy, but Republicans sell it through us vs them culture war bs. “You are poor because liberals hate you and want to put caravans of migrants in your back yard and tell all your kids to feel guilty for being white”.

I also think actual policy from democrats is putting more blue collar jobs back in rural areas than what Republicans have offered, but you can never get to that part of the discussion with all the culture war bs to settle first.

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Eh. This this feels like an extremely Marxist defense of Trump.

The article blames Capitalism, Meritocracy, “smart” policies, jobs that reward talented and well-educated, and rich people’s choice to educate their own children.

There’s some logic there to be sure-- but also, lol, yes NYT, let’s make America Marxist to placate the Republicans.

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I’m a fan of this less guilt-ridden take from the Economist. Historically,
liberal = poor and conservatives = rich.

Then, over the last 70 years, the axes gradually shifted and now,
liberal = educated, and conservative = uneducated.

And maybe the reason for that is simply that lots of people became educated. Enough so that education became its own voting block.

Which means that the opposing party needs to cater to the opposite people–the uneducated people.

So the rise of Trump is a sort of ‘equal and opposite’ reaction to the rise of higher-ed.

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Stop making me beat you?

This time Trump really is bringing back all the high wage low education jobs to the US. The deep state prevented this last time, but we only need a little more money to make sure it happens. Donate your disability check to the Trump trust to ensure America’s future.

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I think it is “get with the times, get a college education, and move where the jobs are”.

But, IMO, most people in the US aren’t born with the genes to turn a college education into a good paying job. They might attend then drop out with loans hanging over them. They might even graduate, but the degree in marketing from Podunk U doesn’t attract recruiters, and they still have loans.

Democrats and Republican elites were all in for sending manufacturing jobs to China and for importing unskilled workers from Mexico. Trump ran against both the Ds and the R elites.

Everybody that doesn’t agree with you is the bad guy in a democracy. They’re literally voting for things you don’t want in your life. Yes Dems are bad guys to Republicans and vice versa.

That is not remotely true. It is possible to disagree on what is best without that disagreement meaning the other person is a bad guy.

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