What do you base this assertion on? If the race distribution of graduates from 20-40 years ago and the current applicants are different, it almost has to be biased from a race view.
Guessing he was referring to the intention behind legacy admissions. Itâs done for money, not racism.
I think 3rookie is asking why race is part of the conversation about eliminating Legacy Admissions.
Answer is that some people view Affirmative Action as a sort of inverse of Legacy Admissions. Which is why we are now talking about ending them both at the same time.
I donât think it matters much how you view it. I think AA is slightly unpopular, and LA is very unpopular, so they could both go down without a fight.
Unlike the US, this is an issue that will never be contested by the Supreme Court of Canada.
In 1982, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms included a clause protecting equality rights â and a sub-clause that permitted âaffirmative actionâ programs. The equality provisions could be violated by programs aimed at âthe amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race.â University admission programs would be covered in this as well as diversity hiring programs.
Guessing that the US might require a constitutional amendment to protect âaffirmative actionâ programs?
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This would be ideal but in todayâs polarized political atmosphere it seems that both sides are trying to use supreme court as an extension of congress to expand or restrict certain laws instead of passing legislation that would clarify the issue.
Fortunately one does not yet exist, and thereâs no way that would be passed in my lifetime.
AA was clearly unconstitutional. I donât see how legacy admissions would be considered as such, regardless of how horrible/un-American a policy it is.
Well, insurance went to using occupation as a proxy when they were barred from using race. They did the same thing when HIV came along. Interior designers got rated up because it was heavily populated with gay men. And those were eventually also banned by the government.
I think that was part of the Asian complaint, that by considering race, they were being discriminated against. Not that AAâs and Hispanics only were getting in ahead of them, but that their numbers were being restricted by use of race.
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This was certainly my (Indian) college roommateâs complaint about medical school. She was losing out to less qualified members of EVERY other race, including white.
Nitpick with this phrasing (not you specifically but in general). Beyond a threshold level, higher scores, grades, etc donât necessarily mean âmore qualified.â Everyone accepted has met entry qualifications.
With doctors specifically, race can impact care:
- In a study led by researchers at Stanford University School of Medicine, more than 1,300 Black men in Oakland, California, were recruited to fill out a health questionnaire, after which they could get a free physician consultation and health screenings. The men assigned to a Black doctor were significantly more likely to bring up specific health concerns to the doctors and to go through screenings for diabetes and cholesterol after the consultation.
- A study from New York University Grossman School of Medicine and NYU Langone Health found that patients with hypertension and symptoms of cardiovascular disease were more likely to adhere to the medication guidelines when they were treated by doctors of the same race (including Black, Hispanic, and Asian).
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Definitely not commenting on the merits of her complaint; merely the complaint itself.
I support in principle the CAS and SOA Diversity Examination Reimbursement Program. It would not be challenged in Canada as our Constitution explicitly permits discriminatory programs in support of groups disadvantaged by race. However I wonder if the recent US Supreme Court decision might affect some of the actuarial professionsâ DEI programs? And the Actuarial Foundationâs race-based scholarships?
Iâve seen those stats on indegenious actuaries before. Unfortunately the problem is so fundamental and systemic I doubt itâll ever be rectified in my lifetime.
I read somewhere that a lot of fun folks in Canada that are getting post secondary education, are becoming lawyers. Probably lots of work there, given that Canada has a lot of treaty and charter clashes.
I donât think so.
The ruling applies to government institutions (like state universities) and private institutions that receive federal education funds. While I wouldnât be surprised if someone tried to challenge them, private scholarships not supported with government funds should still be legal.
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That is good to hear as there has been ongoing opposition to the DEI initiatives by a group of CAS actuaries.
Not so fast my friendsâŚ
Presumably there will be more cases heard by your Supreme Court in this area. The universitiesâ case was just the first recent negative decision on affirmative action.
The letter specifies the federal civil rights act of 1964 that prohibits racial discrimination in employment, or similar state laws.
But, I donât think that law applies to college scholarships from private individuals or groups.
Of course, nothing prevents some AG looking to get re-elected to push on scholarships.
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âŚor any politician looking to campaign on being against âwokenessâ.