United States Presidential & Congressional Election 2024

I guess i had not appreciated that Biden won by 4.5%, i thought the 5% was more to win the house, but i guess the math ends up working out similar enough for the EC.

Trump has too many problems to win. A lot has changed since the 20 election and many more voters are going to just say no.

Who wants to relive the days from November 20 to January 21 again when we were completely uncertain what would happen to the country because we simply could not trust Trump to do the right thing if he lost?

How do we move forward with women losing reproduction rights?

There are big issues the Republicans need to deal with without the elephants in the room with Trump.

It will be a full on culture war regardless, but that seems to be the only argument Trump has left.

More numbers from the NYT poll (don’t see a way to share a non-paywalled link):

(My apologies for the text being washed out; Edge seems to do that sometimes when doing screen grabs.)

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I just don’t think the silent majority supports Trump much at all and I suspect Biden will have a lot more good will in the tank if the economy stays strong throughout 2024.

That 2/3rds of Republicans are still open to Trump is so incredibly depressing. Even if you’re a Never-Trumper, why? Any Republican who wins any election does so with significant support from these people. It’s his party until he dies, and I can’t imagine being callous enough to identify with them.

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Liberal Tears

Apparently I’m much higher on Trumps chances than people here. Inflation hurt so many that the question of ā€œare you better off than 4 years agoā€ is a resounding no among many.

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Hopefully they also think about Trump’s view of interest rates and how that may have made things even worse.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/10/trump-federal-reserve-interest-rate-hikes-1358816

And it’s a double-edged sword. People can’t move for better jobs (or any other reason) because they don’t want to give up their 2-3% mortgages. But if the fed lowers interest rates then inflation will likely go higher.

I don’t know what the answer is. Make all mortgages that existed on a certain date portable to a different home???

I’m not sure this is true. I don’t really think inflation has responded to interest rates at all. It seems like it has been mainly just cyclical due to the money spent during the pandemic.

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Hmmm, well maybe. It would certainly increase the inventory if available homes because people would be more willing to sell.

That’s funny.

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A lot can change in the economy between now and Nov 2024. I seem to recall that George Bush Sr had a very high approval rating after Desert Storm in Jan 1991 but by Nov 1992 the economy had nosedived and he ended up losing.

Some economists say that artificially increasing the money supply is a cause of inflation. When interest rates are lowered (not when they go down due to market conditions), more money is borrowed, churning money, increasing the money supply.

True. Economy could get better for people, or it could also tank.

Biden is also old enough he could get sick and die a couple months before the election. While unlikely, it isn’t nearly as implausible a scenario as someone even 10 years younger than him.

Many many scenarios and variance out there that makes me terrified that Trump is likely going to be on the other side.

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I’ll give you the answer my parents gave for Romney when I pressed them on their reasoning to vote for him. ā€œBecause I think it’s what Jesus would want.ā€

Thankfully they at least matured before Trump’s election and despise him, but for many that’s as far as it goes. Republican == Christian, vote Jesus. (Yes, I know Romney was a Mormon and Trump is agnostic/atheist.)

Somehow I think Jesus would not have responded well to Romney’s statement that 47% should be disregarded because they were ā€œtakersā€.

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Vivek Ramaswamy is coming to Nashville to help distract the calls for gun reform on the wake of the Covenant School shooting. He’s an ignorant asshole.

https://twitter.com/vivekgramaswamy/status/1686034312980758528?s=46&t=8YxmIZtIVphjDW1pnpmmuA

https://twitter.com/brotherjones_/status/1686195672519684096?s=46&t=8YxmIZtIVphjDW1pnpmmuA

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Well, you heard it from Ramaswamy. We should amplify the message of mass murderers. Spread it far and wide, make sure other troubled teens can read it. Thank you Vivek, this will help.

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Sure, this will make future mass murders in schools more likely, but it will also help increase the number of guns in America. That’s a trade off the GOP is willing to make.

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Crack a few eggs, make an omelet.

'Cept the eggs are kids.