They’ll console themselves by claiming to “hold their nose” while they do it.
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We have been down this path before.
To claim that anything will stop a Republicans for voting for a republicann candidate in the general election has been proven false since 2016 onwards.
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I don’t pretend to understand what motivates everyone’s decision to vote. I don’t understand Obama-Trump voters, for example. How could anyone like BOTH of those candidates??? But I know they exist.
There’s 12% of people who were undecided in a poll that someone posted a few days ago.
Also, you’re acting as though behavioral economics is not a thing that exists. There’s a cost to voting: you have to take the time to do it, and possibly pay for gas and/or bus ticket and/or parking, and put forth the mental energy to make a decision and justify your choice at least to yourself.
I readily acknowledge that for the lion’s share of the party faithful this makes no difference. But the apathetic and undecided voters are the ones who swing elections and I think each horrible revelation very slightly increases the number of those folks who will stay home.
I got tired after the 2016 election of being told by the (few) Republicans I knew that they held their nose and voted for Trump. Such blind loyalty to any party is puzzling to me as I have voted for four different parties over the years.
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Pretty accurate comparison
https://twitter.com/robbiesherwood/status/1580012530855858176?s=46&t=sUTvR1wewiaslh7rMcwDNA
Nope.
Funny to think that all started over Sessions going to Washington to work as Trumps AG. Ohwell.
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Yeah, I mean I think even the election of Joe Biden would be an example. And Democrats won not one but two seats in the Senate from Georgia, after all, which most likely included some Republicans crossing over two years ago.
Trump had more votes and a higher turnout of Republicans in 2020 than 2016, so you assertion is completely false.
Your fantasy that Republicans crossed over and voted for Warnock or Oshoff in 2020 runoff elections are exactly that, pure fantasy that you are created and not supported by the actual votes cast.
NPR (or more specifically an expert they quoted) disagrees with you, at least insofar as Warnock is concerned.
They go on to quote a Republican who voted for Warnock (D) and Perdue (R).
Republican turnout was also lower than Democratic turnout, which of course also matters. If the Republicans are less enthusiastic about their candidate and less likely to get off their butts and show up to vote, that helps the Dems. Having a crap candidate will affect turnout.
Sounds like small anecdotal evidence, which i guess is your favorite kind.
The total votes in the general vs. runoff in Georgia are not that different on the Republican side, so i have a hard time believing there was any significant shift from general to runoff and that it was due to turnout.
Regardless, it still does not address my original claim, which was about “General Elections.”
Turnout in Georgia for this is not going to suffer becaise of Walker, as Kemp vs. Abrams is still on the ballot.
Kemp’s numbers will be almost the same as Walkers for Republicans, once all is said and done.
In GA anything is still possible in the big races.
Kemp is definitely the favorite at the moment for Governor. I think the only way Abrams wins is massive turnout in Atlanta and the suburbs.
Warnock leads over Walker but that one is a little closer. I think Warnock likely wins, but I would not be at all surprised by a late surge from Walker.
That’s a fair point. I haven’t followed that one as closely. It may also come down to which elections go to runoff and which don’t.
If Kemp/Abrams does not go to runoff and Walker/Warnock does then we will again be looking at turnout issues.
That said, I’m not sure how likely that outcome is. Nor am I familiar enough with Georgia runoff rules to say if that’s even possible.
Last time the Libertarian got 2.3% of the vote which was enough to send it to a runoff. I don’t know anything about this year’s Libertarian candidate for George Senate but his name is Chase Oliver. It’s possible he draws enough of the vote to send it to a run off.
In the Governor race Shane Hazel who got the 2.3% of the vote in the 2020 Senate race is the Libertarian candidate and there are two write in candidates who probably won’t have any material impact, this not being Alaska.
I suppose it’s possible for Gov (just throwing out hypothetical) that Kemp gets say 51%, Abrams gets 47% and Hazel gets 2%.
while the Senate Breaks something like
49% Walker, 47% Warnock, 4% Oliver. with 2% that Kemp got being disgusted enough with Walker to switch to Oliver and send it to a runoff.
I have no idea if that’s what will happen or if it’s realistic but its a scenario I could see playing out.
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Per the polling mentioned in the linked article below, 96% of republicans plan to vote for Ron Johnson. I guess sedition is popular with Wisconsin GOP voters.
More popular than a black man for sure in that state.
I was just in Wisconsin and every commercial break had an attack ad against barnes, spouting proven lies and ending with Johnson posing with law enforcement.
It is disgusting.
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Yeah my Wisconsin family were lifelong Republicans, but they are pretty fed up with Johnson and will be voting for Barnes. They’re in Kenosha, so they had pretty strong feelings about everything that went down there.
Much like me, they are conservative but fed up with most aspects of the Republican Party at this point.
Actually, I have family in several different parts of Wisconsin, but I was thinking of the Kenosha family specifically.
I would assume most fed up Republicans might just stay home
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most moderate conservatives no longer identify as republican.
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which is why a new party is needed down the middle. New name, new identity.
Many who are disgusted with the current party, even some dems who feel the party id going too left
The displaced ones will be the Liz Cheney’s - pure conservatives, with a conscience
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I wish that were true. Maybe it depends on how broad you think “moderate” is. IMO, thinking Trump did win is surely NOT moderate. Thinking that possibly the election was stolen? It wasn’t, but that might still be within “moderate”.