Yeah, I had thought the Hillary Clinton private server mess was of her own doing because of being paranoid about privacy (I do feel somewhat sympathetic attributing the source of it to her past political battles) and she should have been charged. I would have been pleased had she fessed up and apologized, as opposed to playing dumb “like with a cloth?”. I don’t think the penalty should have been high (no jail time at all) because it seemed careless and unintentional.
Trump had some pathological need to keep this stuff and has fought every way he can to do so, including seemingly by illegal means (accused of having boxes moved before search and limiting search). He can’t run from the cries of “lock him up”, that is capital/capitol karma.
Remember that criminal jury verdicts have to be unanimous to get a conviction.
I suspect that cultists make up more than 1/12th of the pool of potential jurors.
I haven’t gone looking to see what the published odds are (if there are any), but if I were a gambler betting on the trial outcome, I’d think that “mistrial” would be the safe bet.
From what I gathered from the old AO, the mere possession of the documents is criminal (IANAL). But I agree that Biden and Pence were clearly neglectful and truthful, and to a lesser degree Clinton in terms of truthfulness/forthcoming.
My point is there is no “the media”. There are many media outlets. Over on FoxNews, nobody is talking about that fine point, just stuff like:
“If this indictment is as weak as it appears to be, from what has been disclosed so far, it may be the most dangerous indictment in political history,” Dershowitz said.
“As everybody knows,” he added, “it’s the first time that a man who is the leading candidate against the incumbent president has been indicted by the incumbent administration in an effort to prevent him from running.”
They literally have him on tape. And also via the lawyer.
He has documents from the CIA, NSA, DIA, and NSC about the nuclear capabilities of various countries, as well as various counter-responses to various attacks.
If there is one thing you absolutely do not steal or trigger a security breach…it is nuclear secrets.
They are going to crush him. And with good reason.
I can only agree, since other than the ones recently mentioned, I can’t think of others (but I am not an exceedingly political animal, so I’m not reading “the trades” to find them)
The only way I see any reason to differentiate Trump and HRC (at least in terms of +DJT/-HRC) is if you believe the “I can declassify by the power of thought” BS. Seems like his own ego has caught him out in the military documents stuff. It wasn’t good enough to have the documents, they had to be classified to make them cooler. :headshake:
You seem to be under the impression that jurors will be rational when voting on a verdict.
That may be too optimistic an assumption for the hardest core members of Trump’s cult.
If one such person gets through voir dire and onto the jury (and you’d better believe that their social media channels will be full of discussion on how to get through the questioning), there will be no conviction.
Let’s say, just for the sake of argument, that 6% of the jury pool is made up of such people. 1-(1-6%)^12 = a 52.4% chance of having a jury that will be unable to convict him even if the feds have a rock-solid case.
Would your opinion change if you thought that the trial judge would be Aileen Cannon?
From August 2022 to December 2022, Cannon presided over the case of *[Donald J. Trump v. United States of America]. Cannon ordered the U.S. government to pause using [materials seized from Mar-a-Lago] in its investigation while granting former president Trump’s request for a [special master] to review the material. The [United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit] reversed Cannon’s order, upon finding that Cannon wrongly exercised [jurisdiction] over the case,
That was during the 100th Congress, which was McConnell’s second (first term still). I’m not sure I’d describe something that happened during his first term as a “turning point” but it may well have shaped how he thought about things.
6 Republicans voted against Bork and 2 Democrats voted in favor so it wasn’t exactly a hyper-partisan thing though.
One take away from the indictment: If your boss asks you to move physical evidence of a crime, don’t text your coworker a picture of said evidence and ask him to come and help. Seriously, how dumb is Nauta?
