I’m pretty sure that’s what everyone did until trans-terror hit us.
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I mean, instead of characterizing it as accommodating trans people, just characterize it as accommodating kids.
Probably not workable because the government employees are afraid of being fired.
I mean, in practice, tons of people don’t go by the legal name on their birth certificate. William goes by Bill, John Paul III goes by Tres, Mary goes by Ellen, her middle name, because every woman in her family has the first name, “Mary”. Lots of people don’t like their names and change them, usually for reasons having nothing to do with gender. Many of those changes aren’t worth a legal name change.
It’s impractical and rude to call everyone by their legal name.
It’s only since trans-fear that anyone questioned this.
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I just ran across a post on Reddit by an individual frazzled because their partner doesn’t have a passport, doesn’t have a gendered birth certificate, and doesn’t have the appearance matching their assignment at birth. They want to leave the country…
schools do have policies for names. they try to use the one the kid prefers to go by. to a point. it is not so easy as saying on monday you are “nighthawk” and tuesday “dragon” and wednesday jimmy and thurs Joe.
name use only gets tricky when someone refuses to use a requested name OR the parents don’t know/may not accept the chosen name. Or on official records which name they use has to match the official name.
There is a gap between what is allowed under the executive orders and what a school can get away with. Under the order, nicknames are allowed for cis kids but not for trans kids, which is BS. In practice, many nicknames could be used. For example, my oldest child and their girlfriend are both non-binary. The EO requires that their school use she / her pronouns for both of them. My child’s preferred name is gender neutral, and the school could completely use it and claim it is just a nickname. Their girlfriend’s name is a male name and using it would clearly be supporting their social transition and not allowed.
“’Based on your answers, we’ve identified a mismatch in your DNA,’” a company representative told Morton after a long interrogation about his health history and the provenance of his saliva.
“A mismatch?” he asked.
“‘Well,’ she said, searching for the best customer-friendly language, ‘you completed your profile as “male.” But your DNA appears to be female.'”
“Holding the phone to my ear, I laughed nervously, stalling for time while my brain searched its depths for any remaining knowledge on DNA,” Morton wrote.
“I was taught that boys had XY chromosomes, male genitalia, and high testosterone and that girls had XX chromosomes, female genitalia, and relatively low testosterone. I didn’t know that various combinations of chromosomes, hormones, external genitalia, and internal reproductive structures existed.”
“I never learned that sex exists on a spectrum,” he shared.
The cruelty is the point - the mirth that they can get away with publicly harming people.
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So,… being transgender was legal back then?
TIL
They randomly removed the word trans from a bunch of bios, leading to things like the above, saying Sylvia Rivera fought for “gay and rights” where it previously said “gay and trans rights.” And then they left in the fact that she helped trans people, as trans people != trans rights?
They think that trans women are women though – Zazu Nova’s bio no longer refers to her as a black trans woman, but instead as a black woman.
I don’t remember Christine Jorgensen encountering any legal issues in the USA in the 1950s but she did have her surgery outside the USA.
In case some posters are not familiar with her.
I would assume all of this is being done by people being forced to follow these executive orders. So they are doing so as minimally as possible, and letting the absurd results speak for themselves.
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If you are going to take DTNF seriously, there have been laws against being trans since the 1870s, so predating medical options. At Stonewall in particular, while the primary law being enforced was that the police hadn’t received their bribe, the nominal laws being enforced were bans on being visibly gay in public (e.g., dancing together) but also cross-dressing bans. It was illegal for men to be in drag, and it was illegal for women to appear in public unless they wore at least 3 articles of feminine clothing. There are reasons why many people think that the first brick was thrown by a trans woman.
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A few years ago i was at a community christmas party in a local small town that is heavily socon/evangelical. The local gay couple sat with us. Buddy said they never get a chance to dance together, because it would upset people. So what we did was the whole table got up to dance as a group. Sort of problem solved.
Good job im not gay im that town because id be a lot less respectful of other peoples feelings.
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Stonewall Inn’s statement:
The Stonewall Inn and The Stonewall Inn Gives Back Initiative are outraged and appalled by the recent removal of the word ‘transgender’ from the Stonewall National Monument page on the National Park Service website. This blatant act of erasure not only distorts the truth of our history, but it also dishonors the immense contributions of transgender individuals — especially transgender women of color — who were at the forefront of the Stonewall Riots and the broader fight for LGBTQ+ rights.
Let us be clear: Stonewall is transgender history. Marsha P. Johnson, Sylvia Rivera, and countless other trans and gender-nonconforming individuals fought bravely, and often at great personal risk, to push back against oppressive systems. Their courage, sacrifice, and leadership were central to the resistance we now celebrate as the foundation of the modern LGBTQ+ rights movement.
This decision to erase the word ‘transgender’ is a deliberate attempt to erase our history and marginalize the very people who paved the way for many victories we have achieved as a community. It is a direct attack on transgender people, especially transgender women of color, who continue to face violence, discrimination, and erasure at every turn.
We demand the immediate restoration of the word ‘transgender’ on the Stonewall National Monument website. We will not stand by while the legacies of our transgender siblings are erased from the history books. The Stonewall Inn and The Stonewall Inn Gives Back Initiative stands unwaveringly in solidarity with the transgender community and all who fight for full equality, and we will not rest until this grave injustice is corrected.
A dangerous pastime…