Thread where actuaries diagnosis medical issues

I could probably be seated on that. And last time I was called to jury duty, the case was a rape case and the police weren’t involved in any important way, and I think I would have been seated for that one if the timing didn’t conflict with celebrating Passover. (The judge helpfully gave me the correct formula to say to be dismissed, after I expressed my concerns about being able to make the seder. Something like “are you saying that serving on this trial would interfere with your practice of religion?”) But there are a lot of trials that I wouldn’t be seated for, I’d guess. Like almost any auto accident, commercial liability, drug bust, and probably most drunk driving cases – which make up a pretty big chunk of cases.)

Oh, I have no doubt that you’re right. It’s the fact that they get annoyed and act like you’re making it up and/or are to blame because you’re 20 lbs overweight that’s irksome.

feel like death. this just can’t be something as easy as perimenopause

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yeah, i’m finding that out quickly. doctors suck.

I have no idea if this is even close to being on topic, other than frustration with lack of a diagnosis, but maybe it helps a little.

https://twitter.com/BriHallOfficial/status/1516537350431535105

I’d say it is relevant as it does eventually bring up EDS which for many years was an unknown/undiagnosed disorder involving connective tissue (which is everywhere in your body).

However, the twitter person’s use of the race card was disappointing.

in my case, i’m not sure it’s that doctors don’t listen to me, but more that they are limited in their knowledge and give up, particularly my primary care physician and her PA.

Why?

I cannot support her premise that the patient in question was treated differently because she is black and a woman. Don’t you find it unnecessary and divisive?

I’m pretty sure that I have read something that showed that, indeed, such bias is common. I know that I have read that women are more likely to be listened to by doctors if they bring a male partner to their appointment.

I’ll google now.

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https://around.uoregon.edu/content/study-finds-bias-how-doctors-talk-black-female-patients

https://www.today.com/today/amp/tdna187866

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/the-state-of-healthcare-in-the-united-states/racial-disparities-in-health-care/

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2217/17455057.4.3.237

I recall reading a comparison of black women in labor compared to white women. When they asked for pain medication the white women were given significantly more than black women with the same request.

It’s an issue. My MIL is a tough case. She’s a bit of an Eeyore anyway but she’d been complaining about abdominal pain for years before being diagnosed with cancer. Would they have taken her complaints more seriously and run more tests and made the cancer diagnosis sooner if she were white? The whole business about putting her on the chemo drug that was causing her abdominal cysts that made her declare she wanted to die… I gotta think that would have gone better if she were white. I mean, maybe not, but it was pretty absurd. (Documented in more detail in the “adulting your parents is hard” thread)

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Sadly, there’s a ton of data indicating that it’s likely, and that Black women are treated differently

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No, I think on the contrary, it’s important to believe people when they share their experiences, even when they don’t align with our own experiences.

I know I’ve been treated differently as a woman. I’m not Black, but I believe their stories and I believe the data, too. I think calling it “unnecessary and divisive” also feeds into the narrative that when Black women speak to their experiences, they’re labeled as overreacting or divas.

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Even for simple things like sinus infections, my husband would always get antibiotics and mine would always be diagnosed as viral even when the symptoms lasted several weeks.

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And yes I HAVE been watching the HBO Brene Brown special, why do you ask?

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I’m shocked that it’s standard to give people sedation for a colonoscopy, and simply not done for inserting an IUD.

I found the IUD much more painful. And i did a colonoscopy without sedation, and it hurt less than the part of labor before they offer you any pain meds. I can only assume the difference is that men’s discomfort needs to be catered to, and women are expected to tough it out.

I actually prefer to tough it out, and not lose a day, and not need to find a ride. But i feel like there ought to be choices for all of these, and there aren’t. Only for pain that men experience.

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OMG, getting an IUD was one of the most painful things I’ve ever experienced. If you view it as 5+ years of PMS rolled into one miserable weekend then maybe it’s not so bad.

But at a minimum they should be handing out some Rx painkillers. Because Advil Liqui-Gels helped but yikes. And I had no warning. It was described as “no big deal, you can go to work after”. My ass… I thought I was going to die on my way to the nearest drug store to buy the Advil Liqui-Gels. I didn’t even stop to pay for them… just opened them right in the aisle and swallowed. (I did pay for them on the way out, of course.)

Honestly, i think they should offer sedation or some kind of anesthesia for the procedure. I’m convinced that the only reason they don’t it’s because it’s women’s pain.

But I’ll tell you, if you didn’t need to recover from the sedation, or would be really easy to go to work after a colonoscopy. Shoving the tube up is a little painful, but i had no residual pain at all.

I was pretty fortunate and my IUD insertion wasn’t THAT painful. It was definitely painful, but I had given birth six weeks earlier so I was still pretty dilated from that.

But when it expired last year, I opted to not have a new one inserted. I’ve heard from so many women how painful it can be.