Supreme court overturns Roe v. Wade

The attempt to make it harder to petition to amend the Ohio state constitution failed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/08/us/ohio-election-issue-1-results.html?unlocked_article_code=aV5O6GjTu73sRRmphc_wJ-P50EA9sx1gaKComwxa4h3QmBmqIzuMcUgzsEWEfi87_9yp0RaMhX5zBOGK2fLeIuwY8oeMAKeoc92ZQaFPLPS2N3foMvZU0715YxCkHSBtQhjeejYWXewHvR6VjOcG8C0ril5dBfq4hlyDh8B3spM4AsQ9C0RvX8C7WBNKu7nItAe6a25srTBeRAUAlEf_UNFPWW_IdlKdOMClECaqabaIPqXMuOvBDT0W2Wak_3L9l-MH58RgtlFtT-L0ueY4W8ow7dajyrW1jtRlz2DoBbi2EJ3BSt4GBej9brmUv7BCdoGi_5IWaIckYU74OOQ6nLqW&smid=url-share

Screencap of the vote count I just grabbed from the Columbus Dispatch (as of a little before 10pm EDT):

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WLWT is updating faster than Columbus Dispatch.

It’s mostly Cuyahoga & Hamilton Counties left at this point so I think the NO margin will grow. (Cuyahoga County is close to 80% NO, and Hamilton County is 68% NO… Cleveland and Cincinnati respectively.)

56.5% NO at the moment overall with 87% counted, but my guess is that the 13% outstanding is going to drive that 56.5% up. We’ll see.

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My no vote is in there somewhere. Good job, Ohioans. We aren’t Florida…yet.

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Not sure whether to :laughing: or :cry: about the state of my birth.

Franklin County is mostly counted, so in all likelihood your no vote is in the current totals.

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I heard tOSU’s precinct was 98% no. And you wonder why Republicans don’t want young people voting in high numbers.

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I wanted to find this to share but couldn’t Google it up. Must’ve been somebody looking at the results rather than reporting?

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The NYT chart says Franklin County was 75%-25%.

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The whole county was 75% but Samantha did specify “precinct”. I haven’t seen precinct-level results to verify. It’s not hard to believe that tOSU would be even more lopsided than the county as a whole.

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Oops, I blew right past that. Yep, I can believe some precincts would go 95%.

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Looks like the Ohio vote was pretty similar to our similar vote here in Kansas last year, in terms of margin. Both were held in the dead of summer, I think ours was Aug 2. I did see that some Ohio republicans were trying to make the case that this is larger than abortion, which I suppose it would be but that’s what’s on the table right now, as I understand it.

I can’t find precinct-level data here, I live a mile from the University of Kansas so it’s blue to quite blue here. My county voted 81% to protect abortion in the state and I wouldn’t doubt if my precinct was something like 90% or even a bit higher.

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The Republican crossover votes for no are hopefully a sign of better issue based voting to come. The spew of bullshit in ads supporting a yes vote was ridiculous.

Regarding the August election. The GOP in Ohio passed a law banning August elections. Then, when possibly faced with very popular amendment in the November election they went to the Republican OH Supreme court who said do what you want. Which led to this absolute overreach of an amendment in an August election.

The GOP in Ohio want to be rulers not representatives.

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Well, quite frankly, it currently IS too easy to amend the Ohio constitution. But this was going to go way too far… from too easy to completely impossible.

Ironically, had it passed, it would mean that the “right to life” could also never be enshrined in the Ohio constitution because ain’t no way Cuyahoga County (or a bunch of others, but Cuyahoga is consistently the most liberal county in the state) would ever go for that.

But actually it was an incredibly short-sighted measure only trying to prevent the abortion rights measure that’s on the November ballot from passing.

And that’s a pretty modest measure IIRC. I want to say it only protects abortions in the first trimester and to save the life of the mother although I don’t precisely recall.

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My understanding is polling on the November abortion measure and Issue 1 are within 1 point of each other, which suggests that won’t be close either.

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I am expecting the November measure to pass by a larger margin, to be honest.

Final tally on the Ohio constitutional amendment is 57.0% / 43.0%.

A 14 point margin is nothing to sneeze at, but it would have been nicer to get to the 60/40 threshold or more.

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Yep. The proposal included the requirement of petition signatures from 5% of the voters in every one of the 88 Ohio counties. It’s hard to see how anything gets on the ballot unless it is so overwhelmingly popular that the legislature could easily pass it.

It always blows my mind that several many states have so many counties. 88 seems like an order of magnitude too high for Ohio. Like 9 or 10 would probably be plenty.

There are 159 counties in Georgia

I know from The Music Man that Illinois has 102 counties and from The Good Wife that Iowa has 99.

I guess it harkens back to a time when travel was harder.

Still, since the county seat is usually where you’re going to serve jury duty or get divorced (:grimacing:) or participate in early voting and more, it’s kind of nice to have small counties.