Supreme court overturns Roe v. Wade

Like I said, I’m not arguing the facts of the case. I’m just answering the question of what legal theory would allow a judge to review a regulatory ruling.

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there is an enormous flaw in the fed system to where you can select a certain judge with certainty. that should not happen. i got no real problem with there being a chance of your favorite loon getting your case but it should not be 100%. (end of tangent)

Putting aside the statute of limitations, and any questions of standing (among the things raised in the Slate article) issues, whether a regulatory agency followed its own rules in making a ruling sounds like something that has come before the courts. Both Title 42 and Obama-era methane restrictions have been in the news for that in the last few years. IANAL to be able to parse the differences, but judicial review of regulatory decisions seems to occur.

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Bribery is not something that anyone cares about wrt judges. If it did, then this entire thread would not exists.

Eh, i think Justice Thomas has used his position as a fund raising opportunity, but i think he’d vote against abortion even if he didn’t accept bribes.

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Holy shit, they really just hate women:

“Don’t Say Period”: Now Florida wants to ban students from discussing menstruation | Salon.com

Even adolescent girls. Wow. Just wow.

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I think they are required to wave a tampon wrapper in front of them as they walk from class to class saying “unclean, unclean” as the walk the halls.

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I mean, my class didn’t have any sort of sex-related education in school until 6th grade. I THINK we all turned out ok… :person_shrugging:

Are parents not capable of talking to their own kids about these basic life facts anymore?

Religious parents?

Probably not. They avoid it.

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No one told my MIL about menstruation, and when she had her first period she thought she was dying.

Kids shouldn’t have to go through that. Even kids with careless or embarrassed parents.

And I’m willing to bet there are kids in your class who didn’t turn out okay.

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I’m reminded of my 9th grade health class.

At that time, in that state, it was state law that there be no instruction on human reproduction until 9th grade (and then, the subject had to be introduced by a Red Cross nurse, and then only to those students who had permission from their parents).

I went to a “very urban” junior high school, one that took great efforts to keeping kids in school.

That, of course, led to that day in health class, when one of my classmates had to ask to leave the room, just as we were starting on female reproductive anatomy, because something came up with her baby down in the small nursery the school had for students’ kids.

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Also, if a fourth grader got her period, that bill would prevent the school nurse from telling her what is happening. All the nurse could do is tell the kid that they are calling her parents to take her home. I’m sure that would be incredibly reassuring. I bet that at your school, even if there wasn’t any formal sex education, the staff weren’t forbidden from talking to the children about age-appropriate relevant information, like “why you are bleeding right now”.

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Reminded of the classic scene in Carrie where she panics because she is bleeding horribly, and her mom never explained anything. Then all the mean girls laugh and chant ‘plug it up’ and throw tampons at her. Then later she murders them all. Great book/movie.

Of course, it would be less impactful these days, since mass murdering your classmates is an everyday event. And her murder weapon is completely nonsensical compared to tried and true AR-15 with hp rounds.

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Where exactly does it say that? I don’t get that from reading the bill at all.

PDF (flsenate.gov)

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I’m curious the answer to that question too… whichever way the answer is. Fourth grade is pretty young for white girls, but not especially young for black girls. I bet fifth grade is more common for black girls, but regardless it would be preposterous if the school nurse were truly not able to handle it in an age-appropriate way. (Namely: brief explanation of what is happening, providing a pad plus a spare or two depending on the time of day, notifying the parents, answering the girl’s questions.)

Anyway so I’m curious if there is a definitive answer on what the school nurse can / can’t do according to this bill when a “too young” girl comes in and her period has just started.

Seems to me that using an age or a grade is non-sensical given the variance of 1st Period among uterine-equipped females.
But, Fla do Fla.

Well yes, that’s why I put too young in quotes.

Thank you for the link. I don’t see it, either. After finding several articles that claimed schools may not teach about menstruation before grade 6, I found the source. And it appears that that particular issue was fixed, possibly because of the public outcry brought attention to the real-world impact of the bill. Here’s the original bill that was filed

PDF (flsenate.gov)

Which says

67 (2) Throughout instruction in acquired immune deficiency
68 syndrome, sexually transmitted diseases, or health education,
69 when such instruction and course material contains instruction
70 in human sexuality, such instruction may only occur in grades 6
71 through 12 and a school shall:

That pretty clearly says there will be no instruction in health or human sexuality prior to grade 6. But the later version of the bill says

232 (2) Throughout instruction in acquired immune deficiency
233 syndrome, sexually transmitted diseases, or health education,
234 when such instruction and course material contains instruction
235 in human sexuality, a school shall:

This page makes the legislative history clear:
The Florida Senate (flsenate.gov)

Anyway, there’s still a lot to hate in that bill. But that problem has been fixed.

My mother got her period in 3rd grade. Her mother took her to her gynecologist, who said, “she is the youngest patient I have ever had, but everything seems fine”.