State Farm & Allstate won’t write new home policies in California

I’m glad that I don’t do personal lines in the US anymore.

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I give about 3 months for insurers to announce that they’ll start exiting the Homeowner personal lines in that state.

That “California-only costs” line is a backwards way of saying the companies can spread their California costs across Gulf states instead (not to mention the fly-over states ).

This also goes contrary to the “Cost caps” statement where they’re looking at using “industry-wide” values–which will be lower than any California-only costs.

I also wonder just how many of those “500 people” were from major insurance companies.

So everything here is just about the same as Florida about 10-15 years ago; but instead of hurricane risks, it’s the wild-fire risks.

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Sounds like this provision may produce undesirable side effects.

That’s how I read it as well…and was wondering if it was as [whatever] as I thought.

Why do they think that adding more regulations will expand insurance access to Californians? They evidently assume that any insurance will jump through hoops and crawl on broken glass to operate in the state.

If you want to write insurance in our state, you have to take on a quota of wildfire-distressed area business. That’s going to discourage business.

We’ll dictate what we think a reasonable industry-wide cost of reinsurance is and use that to force greater “efficiency” from the company.

With all of this talk about no “model-shopping” there will have to be even more scrutiny than before once wildfire models and their impact on consumer pricing and reinsurance costs go under the microscope.

I can only hope this backfires in a colossal way.

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Of course, if they’re looking for a “California-only” reinsurance cost…does that mean we can’t recognize the diversification benefit of having a well-diversified property portfolio?

I don’t even understand that 85% thing.

I assume it means that if you have 20% of the market share across all of California then you must have no less than 17% of the market share in wildfire areas.

I’m not sure if you include or exclude the wildfire areas when you calc the 20%. My initial read was include.

I also wondered if the market share was calculated based on policy count or premium volume.

I was going to say that the speaker doesn’t know the difference, then I thought maybe an insurance commissioner would, then I realized it’s an elected position help by a politician so now I’m back to “probably does not know the difference”.

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Oh, I looked this guy up. Career politician. I’m going to say he has no idea the difference.

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Annnd what happens if insurer A comes in and writes all the wildfire exposure because they think they can? How does insurer B manage to snag that market share? Make the commissioner force them to cede the business?

The whole thing sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen.

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See, it’s kind of a little bit like the Insurance Commissioner hasn’t completely thought this through…

When I was in PL Lara was infamous enough that we referred to him by name, rather than the commissioner of such and such DOI

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I see it as a provision that basically is steamrolling insurance companies into making California non-wildfire prone risks subsidize the risks in wildfire prone areas.

Finally got some time to read the entire article linked in Maphistos’ post.

Quite clear to me that insurance companies were not consulted on the measures.

Based on this, I can see some insurers will opt to NOT use wildfire models for their ratemaking and continue to exclude other areas where wild-fire risks is apparently on the rise.

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At a prior company we did something similar. If you wanted to rate differently for different wildfire areas you had to comply with all of this onerous regulation. We were writing mid to large Property and the regulation made little sense for us, but no matter.

In the end we were able to just not write any zones with non trivial wildfire risk as an underwriting guideline rather than a rating factor and thereby avoid the regulation, so less supply of insurance.

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Agreed. They are forcing cross-subsidy (higher premiums for homeowners in safer areas) but also limiting the reinsurance that can be charged for those aggregated risks.

Bunch of lunatics in CA tbh. This is going to blow up in their face.

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What I can’t understand is how this nonsense always seems to get good press. The most significant insurance legislation in decades… Solving the wildfire problem… The insurance companies will continue to be portrayed as money-hungry corporations nonrenewing homes with their immense force of evil roof-spying drones.

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