State Farm & Allstate won’t write new home policies in California

Stop it!!
I think it is a reasonable request for people who post something from a report to include a link to the report. That way, we can decide and judge whether it is credible or not.
Don’t go all CS on us, Klaymen!


Chat gptsummary:

  • Tokio Marine America Insurance Co. and Trans Pacific Insurance Co., subsidiaries of Tokio Marine Holdings Inc., are withdrawing from the insurance market in California.
  • They will cease offering homeowners and personal umbrella insurance in the state, impacting 12,556 homeowner insurance policies and 2,732 personal umbrella policies.
  • Nonrenewal notices for impacted policies will begin on July 1, with the proposed effective date for the withdrawals set for August 1, 2025.
  • Reasons for the withdrawal were not disclosed in the documents, and Tokio Marine did not respond to inquiries from KTLA.
  • Their withdrawal adds to a trend of insurance companies limiting or withdrawing business in California, making it harder for residents to obtain coverage.
  • State Farm General Insurance Company previously announced plans to non-renew about 72,000 policies in California, affecting property insurance and commercial apartment policies, and stopped accepting new insurance applications for all business and personal property in the state.

Premiums in California plummet!!!


What’s your secret?

Gift of the gab mate

In general, you want to redirect to point out why you are right without directly telling the regulator “you’re wrong.” You don’t want to come off as confrontational.


How Insurers Game Out Disaster Risk and Drop Customers.


How Insurers Game Out Disaster Risk and Drop Customers - WSJ

chatgpt summary
Insurers' Response to Increasing Natural Disaster Risks:
    Insurers are raising rates and limiting coverage due to rising losses from storms, wildfires, and hurricanes.
    CSAA Insurance Group refused to renew a policy citing wildfire risk despite a zero risk score.
    Insurers employ scoring models to predict and manage risks, but concerns about fairness and accuracy persist.

Methods Employed by Insurers:
    Two main methods used are scoring individual homes and catastrophe models to estimate disaster likelihood and cost.
    Scoring and models aim to reduce losses and justify rate increases.

Challenges and Varied Results:
    Different scoring models yield disparate risk assessments for individual homes or neighborhoods.
    Wildfire risk can vary significantly within small areas due to various factors like vegetation dryness and land slope.

Role of Catastrophe Models:
    California historically disallowed the use of catastrophe models to set rates, but this is changing.
    Insurers argue models are crucial for assessing and pricing wildfire, flood, and other risks, improving insurance availability.

Need for Improved Models:
    Insurers face challenges due to climate change, insufficient data on secondary perils like hailstorms, and outdated predictive models.
    Advanced predictive modeling capabilities are lacking in a significant portion of the industry.

Regulatory Changes and Future Outlook:
    California's plans to allow the use of catastrophe models aim to address the state's home-insurance crisis.
    Insurers hope improved models will help in better risk assessment and rate setting post-catastrophes.

Think like a regulator

Yes this helps too for certain regulators. Certain people can come across as really hostile and difficult in SERFF notes, but you pick up the phone and talk with them and they are professional and helpful.

Doesn’t work for all obviously, but picking up the phone is a very important tool.


Yes, even if they are pants-on-fire up is down wrong, I never tell them that directly.

In general I try to reframe our positions to show that actually they agree with me.

Sometimes it’s clear that the person raising the objection is brand new, so you almoat have to view it as a training exercise.