Never worried about rejection.
What do you mean by ambitious in a outgoing/social way?
If people find you outgoing theyâre generally going to be more receptive to whatever you say, including asking for more responsibility/money.
Come on. Whats the odd of finding a extrovert actuary. Haha
Haha itâs more common than you might think, particularly amongst younger generations. Whether youâre personally more extroverted or introverted it doesnât do you many favors to be introverted (i.e. shy) in discussions about your role.
True that. And you canât assume people understand you without you expressing your thoughts.
you likely wonât get it, but doesnât hurt to apply.
There are plenty of actuaries who look at other peopleâs shoes.
- This is a long story long. Good story, though.
- I thought this thread was about getting a company car. âgetting my boss roll!!â
- âYou miss 100% of the shots you donât take - Wayne Gretzky.â â Michael Scott
- Your ex-boss had only one foot??
- Long advice short: go for it,
- Long advice long: go for it, fully aware that you might be short on âfit,â and that youâll have to sell your interviewers on your positives, and that if they go in another direction, so be it. They will then know your goals, and that you are one to volunteer to do more (for more pay, of course) than just sit at your station and keep your head down and do your work, like the others. The interviewers will note this the next time an opening pops up, assuming you qualified for this position but someone else was better.
I have seen more than one company spiral out of control by promoting younger and younger people to replace more senior people that left. Then those younger people left and got replaced by even younger people to absurd levels (like an actuarial analyst with five exams replacing the chief actuary). Hopefully thatâs not the case here.
Usually a sign of favoritism. Iâve seen this happen at large companies.
did this âchief actuaryâ have to sign off on the reserves?
No, but he supervised another actuary who was the appointed one. I donât think he was given the title chief actuary either. The ca left and they moved him into the position.
- Affirmative. Haha
The actuarial analyst must be feeling pretty good about himself. My case is nothing like this though.
Whatever you end up doing, please post the results. Itâs an interesting position.
Itâs probably fine to apply if youâre not an a-hole if denied. Applying for two levels up though⌠if youâre a rockstar in your position itâs possible but Iâd be surprised, this feels overly ambitious from an outsider perspective.
will think this through over the weekend.
it is not really two level up ⌠i imagine i still can have my boss role/responsibility with only one level of promotion in term of career rankâŚ
I think point number 1 might be a sticking point. âNearâ and actual credentials are two different things.
You say you joined the company about a year ago⌠Iâm assuming you have more actuarial experience than one year though? The difference between your experience level and that of the old boss is another potential sticking point.
I was at a company that had a manager role and a chief actuary role open at the same time - most of the more senior non-manager actuaries applied for the manager position. One ended up applying for the chief actuary role as well as the manager role. He didnât even receive an interview for that chief actuary role. Coworkers all thought it was a bit presumptuous for him to apply that high up, but it was fine. He didnât get either role and stayed working there. If you are applying in an âIâm going to shoot my shot and seeâ way but donât mind if you get rejected and donât come off as entitled/whiny about it I think it would be fine to do.
Hahaha⌠How did the coworkers know that he applied for the CA position ?