I read most of the posts here and it seems to have evolved into Twig says something and others respond. Twig is picking off very specific things in her life that would seem to make AVs not workable in the near future (less than 25-50 years). Why are you all arguing with her? Let’s just discuss the values, challenges, etc. without regard to one person’s vision of things that she feels won’t work? Why engage with Twig anymore in this thread? You aren’t going to convince her if we are at nearly 300 posts.
^^^^^
Is this guy new to the internet?
Nope, just really tied of Twig at this point in this thread.
I actually skipped like 100 posts and to land on yours.
The main issue with nuclear is it never got cheap.
One good thing about AVs is the parts will probably be cheap, if we ever figure out what they are.
Modern computers and the human brain function and process information very differently. Modern machine learning is not capable of replicating natural biological functions. For example, the human brain has developed very specially to detect and respond to motion. This is why we can move out of the way when our spouse throws a pillow at us unexpectedly. Computers are not built to optimize the input of the world around them and use that information to maximize survival. More data will not make a computer be able to mimic biological processes that many lifeforms do naturally. Machine learning is pattern recognition and not thinking. We need computers that think before we can have fully autonomous vehicles like you guys are discussing. Until then, AV’s will be able to handle a significant portion of transportation but not all of it.
And horses do still share the road with cars today in some areas so they aren’t illegal on all roadways.
I was on vacation in Yellowstone a couple weeks ago and got to ride in an AV named T.E.D.D.Y.
It drove us on a pre-programmed route from the park headquarters/dining area over to our hotel. Literally 2 seconds after it started moving someone ran in front of the vehicle and it stopped right away with no issues. Ran into a bit of a snag when it had to pass by a car that was parked a bit into the lane. It was programmed to stop and let the human attendant take over and navigate around the obstacle but I could tell it would be easy to let the AV check to make sure it was safe, then briefly cross over into the adjacent lane to make the pass.
Overall it worked pretty well in that setting but it will be a while before this stuff is ready to roll out in an unpredictable environment.
with automation we will always lose something vs manual. Take elevator operators for instance. Use to be u walk into the elevator and tell to operator to take u to floor x. But then u remember u have to go to floor y for something. No problem, just tell the operator to cancel x and go to y. Now it’s automated and u have to press a button. So if u pressed x, u r going to x, even if u meant to press y (unless of course y is b4 x, then it’s someone elses problem ha!)
This is becoming too philosophical.
But to many, that first sentence is absolutely not true.
I think it will start with the interstates. They are fairly easy to drive, very cost-effective to upgrade to talk to the vehicles, and there are lots of long drives that would be safer without a sleepy driver.
Probably start with trucks. If the driver can sleep in the truck you can trim a lot of time off the trip. You also have less risk of theft-of-contents, which usually happens while the truck is parked for the driver to sleep.
Then we’ll have designated lanes where unpredictable human drivers aren’t allowed. Then some city cab instances. And a few rural/suburban ones. Then it will become illegal for humans to drive at all on the interstates, like you can’t take a horse on them today. Then gradually manual cars will be a thing you find on farms and in the back country.
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Who peed in your Cheerios?
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This is all we need to know. Your projection is not apt.
You want an AV, and you want the government to force its citizens into AVs. All because you are a terrible driver and often too wasted to drive.
How about you become a better driver? And work on some other personal issues?
No, the rest of the driving world is actually competent at driving. It is only you and your small circle of inebriators that are the problem.
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Naw. I’m a better than average driver* and my husband is a teetotaler, so i always have a designated driver handy if i want to drink. But driving is a chore. And I’m old enough to foresee a day when i still want to get around but am not a very good driver. My mother is there. I am eagerly looking forward to self-driving cars. And i expect that once they catch on there will be a lot of restrictions on where humans are allowed to manually drive.
- This is not much of a brag. My employer’s data shows that 20% of drivers cause 80% of insurable damage. The median driver is much better than “average”. I’m pretty sure I’m part of the 60% that are neither bad not excellent, but just competent drivers.
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lol
Most people who think they’re good drivers are actually shit drivers.
Did the government force cars on people who love horses too? Or was that just a natural progression of technological advancement? I’m sure there will be amusement parks for you to manually drive in if you love driving that much.
Huh?
You are advocating a government ban on the sale of manually-driven cars.
Has the government banned the sale of horses? I have multiple friends with horses… I’m pretty sure you can still breed, buy and sell them to this day.
What you are proposing is in no way analogous to the shift from horses to cars.
um. okay then. you’re just being intentionally dense at this point. it’s not even worth responding to.
As twig said, just using your words.
And, you should get a taxi now, Cruz, dayum.
uber bro. get with the times.