$6 for a full table, plus the pre-deal jackpot $1.
At Commerce, the dealers would take $4 at the flop, $1 on the turn, and $1 on the river.
Got burned last night for $400. Shitty second-best hands.
Is that from the pot or per player?
From each pot, post-flop. So, if only two players in a 2/3 game, there is $0 in the pot. Players know this and will chop if only one limp.
At Commerce, I was at a 1/3 game, and that $1 Small Blind was taken before dealing.
Played some 1/3 live for the first time in forever yesterday. It was a pretty fun time! Within 20 minutes of sitting down, an adjacent table erupted into applause as they hit the $100k+ bad beat jackpot (straight flush over quads). There was also an hourly $1000 high hand promotion running, which added an interesting dynamic to a lot of the play (more on that later). All in all, I bought in for two $300 bullets - I lost my first one after I lost a big hand KJ < KQ. Ended up turning the second bullet into $1386, so more than doubled my money in about 3.5 hours of play. Some notable hands…
I had QThh on the button and raised to $15, got 3 callers. Flop was 7-5-2 with two hearts. I continued and got one caller. Turn was a low brick and the guy led out kind of small. I put him AI and he called. River bricked again low. He sheepishly said “you’re good” and I was in disbelief, but tabled my hand and it somehow held. I think all the straight draws came in so I think he had exactly J-9 hearts. That put me up to around $550 or so and set up my biggest hand of the night an orbit later.
EP raises to $12 and 3 or 4 people flat. I have 3-5 suited on the cutoff so I call and see a flop of Q-3-3. Bingo. I can’t remember the exact flop and turn action but I was slow-playing and it was down to just me and EP on the river. Case 3 hits the felt and I thinking about Vegas and the f’in Mirage. EP checks again and I bet $40. He thinks for a bit and raised to $125. I give my best “WTF can he have” face, pause for a few seconds. I think this guy is super polarized here, he is either folding to any raise or he’s got Queens full or something. I jam and go stoic, he thinks for another 30 seconds and calls. Unfortunately for the high hand promotion though, someone else had just hit quad 4s on another table during the same hand.
I fluctuate for a while after this but take down some big pots with JJ twice and AA twice. The second AA I 3-bet to $50 and get 4(!) callers. The flop is 2-4-5 and I bet $175 and everyone folds. The other notable one is I had 44 on the cutoff and several people call a $6 button straddle. I come along and flop the set, and eventually get max value from a guy that just sat down.
Good times!
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What was it?
He didn’t show. I kind of doubt he would have called my all in with just 3’s full, but maybe he could have had aces.
Guy didn’t show his hand when you hit the quad-3’s?
I only play neighborhood games, but that is a hand where I would generally talk through the whole hand. Maybe such table talk is frowned upon in casinos. But I would be talking out loud and trying to confuse the other guy. I guess that I figure that the more that pours out of my mouth, the more the clock is running on him and the less he’s really able to mentally focus on the hand and/or what I really have. (It helps when you have the nuts) But in this situation I might try the tact that I would tell him he has to call because there’s a decent chance we are splitting the pot if we both have a queen. Or I could imply I have a queen and if he has QQ, KK, or AA then he’s the better man.
I’m guessing he held a lone queen, which meant he was susceptible to QQ, KK, AA, or a 3.
Right, I had to show since he called my jam, so he mucked.
I do like the idea of talking people into a call with some misinformation, but in practice I’m usually a tad to nervous to give it a shot. I tend to assume the less info I give off the better.
This guy was only showing big hands all afternoon and played pretty well overall so I lean towards giving him credit for at least aces on this hand. But I guess maybe he thought a lone queen was splitting, after all I didn’t show any aggression pre or post flop so it was unlikely I had a big pair.
Been on an absolutely mental gambling heater starting with Super Bowl squares - so I decided to go back again to the local card room since g-lassie was having a girls night out. Got there around 5:30 or so and put in for 1/3 NLHE and 1/2 PLO. I was actually leaning towards playing NL again but they called me for PLO about 2 minutes before, so I decided to just give that a run. In for $220.
Second hand of the night I’m on SB and get dealt A-Q-7-7 double suited. I call the button straddle, it gets raised, I call again. 4 or 5 players. Flop is Q high with my nut flush draw, I end up getting it in 4 ways and spike the heart on the river - insta quad-up.
A bit later I’m on SB again with another button straddle, A-A-7-8. I just call, it gets raised twice and back to me, I re-pot to $305. Only button calls. Flop is K-5-2, two-toned. I check, button checks. Turn is the 6, so I just rip it in. Button thinks for long enough that I’m not worried about sets anymore, eventually calls. River is another 5, which scares me a bit, but I announce Aces up and he mucks. Said he flopped two pair and a flush draw, but I’m not sure what hand makes that possible, A-K-2-x suited…? If that’s actually true not sure why he doesn’t push on the flop. In any case, I’m up to like $1600 only 45 minutes in.
I only end up seeing maybe 3 or 4 more flops in the next 90 minutes, and win one more almost $1k pot where I I make another nut flush on the river (which pairs, and checks down). After < 2.5 hours, the table starts to break when two other big stacks leave and I walk out with $2595. Like I said, absolutely sick run lately.
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cool story, bro!
That’s awesome. I love PLO. Need to look into if any of the casinos near me run a PLO game.
Chumash Casino, north of Santa Barbara, closed its poker room. Seems a trend for the Injun casinos in So Cal. Still a few out near Palm Springs.
Sad day for me. I never got the chance to get back out there. I’ll have to hit up Ventura if I ever have $$ to burn. Or just wait until I visit LA
Logged my third session in the last month at the same casino. Spoiler alert: heater continues.
Got on the 1/3 NL and 1/2 PLO lists again, and PLO came up first. Sat down with $300 and a few hands in, I potted to $70 on SB with As-Ad-7s-4c. Three ways to the flop of all diamonds… considered bluffing with my naked Ad, but checked and MP bet $120 and LP called. I folded. LP eventually won with a jack-flush This is where I’m not good at PLO - I should probably be potting the flop all in and putting them to the test.
I was really wanting to play NLHE and didn’t like the Omaha table much so I moved there a few minutes later when my spot came up. Grabbed another $100 in chips so had about $325 of my total $400 when I sat down. Played about 3 total hours. Memorable hands:
- Get 99 in MP and there are 2 calls already from a $10 button straddle. I make it $45 and get 3 callers. Flop is Q-9-4 and I fire $125, everyone folds. Maybe should have gone less here (also pertinent that there are $500 hourly high hand bonuses for aces full or better), but there aren’t many turn cards that I like here so happy to take it down.
- QQ in the BB, this time a $10 UTG straddle. A few calls, someone makes it $40, one guy calls all in for less, then I make it $125. Raiser thinks for about 2 minutes then folds AK. Board runs out clean for smaller main pot. Again, maybe should have made it a bit smaller, but always nice to take down a decent amount pre.
- Biggest hand of night, I am sitting at around $550 on the BB and call the $10 button straddle with 6-8 spades, then a raise to $30 from LP. Flop is A-8-3, and LP bets relatively small, about $40ish. I call and see a 6 on the turn. Check, LP bets $120, I push all in and he makes a crying call with about 240 more. River is clean and I basically double through.
- Won another decent pot where I three-bet QQ and take it down with a bet on 10-6-6 board.
- Call a raise with 6-5 and flop is K-6-4. End up rivering another 6 and check raising same guy from 8-6 hand - he folds this time.
Leave after about 3.5 hours with $1155 total. Poker bankroll is swole right now and now considering joining a buddy out in Vegas for a few WSOP events/cash games next month - if I can earn another 1k or so to pay for flights/hotels/expenses/etc in the next month I’m sending it.
The worst bad beat of them all…
RIP Doyle
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Hard to say 89 is a bad beat, more like a good run. Would drawing dead be a better term?
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ISWYDT
Back in Vegas for the first time in around 5 years. Can’t believe I went this long. Played 2-5 NL at the Bellagio last night. No truly notable hands, yet won $150 in session 1 and $450 in session 2. Considering I never hit a straight or flush, only hit one set that didn’t get paid, pretty solid session. Just getting good value for my good hands, making some good calls and some good bluffs.
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Second session yesterday. This time $3-$5 NL at the Horseshoe.
Bought in for $300. Was down a little when I had 10-8 in the BB. Middle position made standard raise. 3 to the flop. Flop comes 10-8-4 rainbow. I check. Raiser c-bets for $35 or so. Standard c-bet for the table. Fold. I raise to $90 or so. He calls. Turn J. Check, shove for remaining $150 or so. He calls.
Summary
He had 7-9 suited. I rebought for $300 more.
Later, I am getting down to $200ish again. Buy-in was $300-$1000. Many players at the table have $500-$1000+. I consider whether I should buy up to $1000 (comfortable doing this, losing it, betting it, etc.). Ultimately I decide the benefit to being able to win a bigger pot if I win a cooler is outweighed by the benefit of being able to make all-in calls and all-in bluffs for cheaper on more marginal hands. So I stand pat.
1/3 of the table had been playing a $10 straddle from the button. The other solid players had been attacking this with a $25 raise from middle position. In one such situation, I pick up AA in middle position and raise to $25. A couple of callers, then BB, an aggressive, middle-aged Asian woman, makes it $200. I call for less. Everyone else folds. I double through her AK.
A half round later, I am on the button and straddle. She makes it $30, I call with K-2. Flop comes 2-8-9. She leads for $55. I consider a raise here, but decide to call. Turn comes 10. There are now 2 flush draws. She open shoves for $205 more.
Summary
I think for a bit. Initial fleeting instinct is to call, but of course this is likely a fold. I think for a bit, and eventually talk myself into a call. I reason that she is repping an overpair (other made hands are possible, too of course, but I mostly discount these). But based on my profile of her, this just reeks of a semi-bluff to me. And I have some redraws against most hands, even if I am behind. I call. River comes Q, but no flush. Not a card I wanted to see, but she pats the table and says, I missed, and eventually tables A7 (without a suit draw). I table K2 for a pair of 2s. The table goes a bit wild at both the bluff and especially the call.
These two pots put me up $100 on the session. I leave for dinner shortly after.
My sister and I love Paigow. They now play Face Up Paigow. Dealer shows and sets their hand before you have to set yours. But if Dealer gets A-High Paigow, it’s an automatic push for everyone. And they no longer have the commission.
Positives -
No more commission. No more 5% calculations, quarters on the table, etc.
You see their hand. Let’s you make some unnatural plays that end up pushing, or even winning, that you would do worse if you didn’t know their hand. Example, They have AA high and QJ low. You have KK. Instead of playing KK high and losing, you split your kings and push by winning the low.
At first I loved it. But as you play longer, the fact that you push against Dealer’s A-high Paigow ends up hurting. It doesn’t happen that often, a couple times an hour. But when it does, you feel robbed of a win (and oftentimes you are).
A few places didn’t have Paigow at all. And the ones that did, minimums were high, even on Monday and Tuesady night. $25, $50 and $15 minimum in our three sessions. I also don’t try to stay at the minimum, happy to raise the stakes. Well I got crushed at Paigow going -$600, -$300, -$300 in three sessions.
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