News that makes you say WTF?!?!

LegalEagle covered this today. Not mentioned in any of the stories I’ve seen is that Disney didn’t own the restaurant and the employees that served up the deadly food had nothing to do with Disney. It was similar to House of Blues in the same shopping area. Disney leased the land to the restaurant.

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TikTok influencer Logan Moffitt sets off a worldwide run on cucumbers. Iceland faces a severe shortage.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/world/europe/cucumber-iceland-tiktok-trend.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Fk4.IJvY.KMLao99h_oPE&smid=url-share

His cucumber salad does look good though.

https://www.toronto.com/news/who-is-the-cucumber-guy-how-ontario-tiktokker-logan-moffitt-sliced-his-way-to-viral/article_679a09b0-a051-5996-b631-729a010aaa1c.html

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There is potential for both pickle jokes and little miss Muffet jokes. A+ no notes.

going to Iceland in January, may want a pickle

Going to the country, gonna eat a lot of pickles…

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Try to sneak in a suitcase full of cucumbers. Selling them in Iceland could pay for your trip.

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Saw an article saying Disney is dropping the waiver by the Disney Plus thing. I’m sure there will be plenty of other defenses they can choose from.

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Yeah, it seems like the thing that might get them responsible (other than just having big pockets) is that they posted their menu on the Disney website.

Incidentally, some of my daughter’s friends have been posting ridiculous stuff on Facebook about apparently it’s OK for Disney to kill people if you have Disney+. It’s a major misunderstanding or misrepresentation of what’s going on.

Yeah, if they don’t operate the restaurant that seems like a better defense than the Disney Plus thing. At least from a marketing perspective if not a legal one.

Hmmmm… I’m actually going to side with Disney on that one.

I don’t see that making them any more responsible than Google or Yahoo or Microsoft if it shows up on their search engines. (And no, I don’t think any of them are responsible.)

Should Disney have oversight at a restaurant on their property? I dunno; I’m leaning towards thinking that Disney should cooperate with health inspections and investigations, but beyond that as long as they reasonably believed the restaurant was operating appropriately then no, they shouldn’t be responsible. If there had been 6 prior complaints to Disney about the restaurant serving allergens to people who were allergic then I think they maybe get some of the blame but otherwise… I’m having a hard time seeing it. I could be convinced, but that’s my initial impression. How much oversight do they typically exercise when it comes to food safety?

What say the rest of you? Is Disney to blame?

I think the question is about legal liability. You may be intentionally using moral language to make a point, but i will answer the more interesting (to me) one.
I don’t know. Complex business arrangements can establish a set of responsibilities/liabilities that are based on legal principles and prior case law. Because of the serious consequences (death in this case) a bunch of lawyers are willing to go to court to figure it out.

A simpler question: A neighbor slips and falls on a public sidewalk in front of another’s house. You can bet there will be a lawsuit. Is the homeowner “to blame”? What about the municipality?

Fox hunters are a discriminated-against minority.

right up there with glasses-wearers and cholera survivors.

Is the city or the owner negligent in some way?

If it was snowy or icy and the owner was not doing a reasonable job of keeping the sidewalk cleared then there’s some negligence on the part of the owner. If the sidewalk was super uneven and the city was responsible for maintaining it then there is some negligence on the part of the city.

Otherwise it should be no one’s fault but the pedestrian. I realize that’s not how it will go though.

My wife greatly dislikes them as well. I find their parks to be massively over-priced and congested, so I have never considered taking the family to the ones in Paris and
Florida.

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As an active hunter, fox hunting in the UK is a cruel, inhumane and detestable activity. It should be outlawed. It’s not hunting, it’s torture of animals.

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This is their last desperate throw of the dice.

Most lawyers I know give them zero chance. They are just trying to stall the inevitable ban.

They are expensive, but based on your description of your lifestyle I would remove the “massively” descriptor, at least in relation to my perception of your utility curve. The top end rides at WDW are really quite amazing. Glad I got to go, but I probably won’t go back for many years if ever.

If you hate Disney for its image or how it operates that can certainly be a deal-killer. Just be sure to eliminate all Disney references from your child’s media consumption. Crowds are a thing too, but just look at sporting events. And anyway, you live in London :laughing:, maybe you could go to Hong Kong to have some peace and quiet.

Its simply too commercialised. I have discussed this with my wife many times because quite a lot of her friends from Brazil take their kids to Disney in Florida.

You feel like you are constantly being extracted from financially (everything is an add-on) and that takes away from the enjoyment of the place. You are already paying many $$$ to stay and dine there, so the extras do grate a bit.

We went to Legoland in Denmark for a week in July 2023 and while it was expensive, they don’t nickel and dime you everywhere. The price they tell you is the final price. Its just a different experience.

The US in general can get very annoying because of the constant “extras”. Give me the actual “bill” and stop adding extras after that would make the entire experience a lot better.

Maybe US folks have normalised this kind of pricing strategy over the last decade or so, but it just really irritates me.

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