Looks like abortion is about to get outlawed across America

It’s a long time ago, but when my second child was born i got an out-of-network bill. I contested it, since the provider name was male, and i had literally not seen anyone male during the entire pregnancy. It turned out that it was the person who read the ultrasound. Not the technician who performed the ultrasound exam, but the person the hospital sent it to.

So I contested it again, saying that it was their error to send it to someone out of network, and told them i refused to pay.

Oddly enough, i won that fight. Probably because it actually had been an error on their part. The doctor took “BCBS” but not the “BCBS HMO” i was in, and i suspect someone just misread my insurance, which was uncommon at the time.

It’s not always possible to prove rape to get an abortion. Not every woman goes to the police the minute she is raped. Not sure if these people who think there is a rape exception have even thought this out as a legit road or they are actually anti abortion entirely when it comes down to it or stupid or both

Also I think people who believe in a rape clause want to punish women otherwise for daring to have sex willingly

and I am sure incest is even worse

So much is lip service and the practicality of anything is of little importance.

Personally, IF you believe the baby is a life, not sure Rape or Incest should be an exception to them.
Even life of the mother is religiously debatable as God would decide who gets to live, not the doctor.

Those who allow exceptions are actually the more hypocritical or there opposition is based on nothing other than politics

There was a doctor who had a cardiac arrest at home. I think he was transported to the hospital he was affiliated with. One of the ICU doctors who treated him while he was unconscious was out of network although in process of being in network (was in the following month). Lots of calls on that one. The hospital finally ate it.

There was some male politician (or maybe religious leader?) who asserted that a woman can’t get pregnant if it’s “really” rape because her body fights it off somehow.

I’m of the stance that I don’t care if the fetus is a life. A woman has no obligation to house it in her womb. It also gets too nit picky to determine when life begins.

Totally agree.

There is a related point here. In Canada, it was decided decades ago that most social welfare programs should be demogrant programs rather than based solely on income and/or means testing. Although this means that some tax dollars go to folks that don’t need the subsidy or the program, it more importantly means that all taxpayers feel they are getting something for the taxes they pay. Thus we do not have programs like the US Medicaid that help poor folks: instead everyone in Canada gets medical care or subsidized child care regardless of their income level. I think this diminishes Canadian taxpayer resistance to providing social programs as it does not fuel the sentiment that I don’t personally benefit at all from the taxes I pay.

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I agree with you, just arguing what I see on the other side

Summary:

They’re probably thinking abortion should be legal when the rapist is the father/brother/son.

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It’s sad to think that finances play a significant role in deciding on whether or not to have a child. Family planning is a way to help people get out of poverty. It seems especially cruel to take away an imperfect solution (I don’t think anyone is getting an abortion for fun) without addressing the cause. It seems much more logical to address the reasons one would seek an abortion. Oh wait, that costs money vs looking down from a high horse (“why should I have to pay for someone who couldn’t keep their knees together?”).

The first question says generally legal. The second set of questions clarifies what types of abortions specifically they think should be legal.

And I don’t think this is exactly foolproof contraception either

I guess that’s when it’s “God’s will” or “she secretly wanted it.”

Interesting mindset that says a kid born missing half its head falls under “God doesn’t make mistakes” but a kid born gay is all “full of sin.”

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This is so incredibly wrong and privileged thing to say.

Like, I keep looking at this and can’t believe someone actually said this.

Damn.

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I do know of Christians who are pro-life but do support contraception, universal healthcare, childcare, etc to remove fixable burdens of having a baby. Unfortunately those people are in the minority.

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Why do you think MI & WI would fall?
There is zero chance of getting a law passed through the state government repealing abortion.
Only chance would be a state Supreme Court decision, but that has zero chance in WI.

Yes.

It isn’t that complicated.

HSA is our own (restricted) savings account.
Any amount out of that is literally out of pocket costs for you.

I’m getting a lot of texts from the dnc begging for money to stop this whole thing. Is my $15 really going to do anything to stop this? The dems seem so useless lately