I highly suspect this is from an internal leak from someone in the Israeli Govt as they are completely fed up with Bibi’s behavior.
This further cements the view that Bibi is throwing up obstacles for any negotiation to be succesful in order to keep the conflict going.
What were the reasons behind the sanctions that were lifted? Were there sticking points in the discussions on certain things on both sides? I guess my thought is that pretty much any deal that Obama delivered would have been “a disaster” and the target of complaints by “not the Obama team”.
If Iran gives up too much, they face political backlash at home, because they have politics there just like we have them in the US.
Would we have the current war between Hamas and Israel if Trump did not pull us out of the deal?
Obama was so convinced he was a great man in history and could solve these issues
I thought that was jared
The whole deal was we remove sanctions and they basically pause 10 years in their nuclear program. Except for the fact that they were free to keep adding limited amounts of capacity and technology as long as they didn’t enrich too much uranium. So basically for slowing down a program they couldn’t afford very well they got to largely fix their economy.
Nothing on the missile program, nothing on sponsoring terror, nothing on human rights (admittedly distant 4th on this list.)
I’d have been fine if the deal was to disassemble their nuclear program facilities and curtail the missile program. Don’t care whose name is on it if it works well and quite willing to give credit where its due. The Iranians didn’t even stick to what they agreed to do. Started throwing up road blocks to inspection teams after not very long at all.
That might as well say “I’d have been fine if Iran had agreed to embrace full democracy and get rid of all the religious leaders” because it had just as much of a chance of happening, because
Not to mention, it puts Iran in a position where it feels defenseless if Israel decides to get aggressive with a missile program we’ve given our blessing to and helped build out on top of whatever nuclear program it has that we’ve allowed to develop without any restrictions we’re demanding Iran submit to for no gain at all.
This is the classic “pie in the sky” nonsense that I see so often from the right in the US.
You might as well wish for unicorns because nobody would ever give up missile development (because then they cannot defend themselves against conventional attacks).
Especially in the current political climate, where Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons for a joint agreement between Russia/US/UK that their boundaries would be respected.
Good luck getting Iran to give up nuclear development as they watch Ukraine be invaded and Ukrainians die from the same decision, just after Israel conducted an assassination in Iran.
The JCPOA was before that.
Russia invading Ukraine has made anyone giving up on nukes that much harder. Isn’t Putin just a wonderful guy?
Kind of like “If Israel would just play nice I’m sure that Hamas and Iran would stop trying to destroy them.”
A hundred billion and the savings from not running the program is a reasonable request for disassembing their nuke research.
Probably a smart move on Iran’s part. Look what it’s done for Israel and Ukraine. Having a nuclear program gives them leverage.
Wasn’t the hundred billion mostly Iranian money the US had taken from them?
I think it is hard to understand the range of possibilities on what was negotiable from the role of a keyboard warrior. We have experts working on these deals and I would expect both Trump and Obama rely on their knowledge to secure the best possible deal on the behalf of the US.
In Trump’s world view, everything that Obama did was the worst, and everything that Trump did was the best. We were in the unfortunately reality that TRUMP LIES ALL THE TIME, so we now get to try and guess from more credible sources what the right information might be. Here is one view that describes the limits and breaches, and I think an honest view might be closer to “Iran probably could have done some things better to achieve 100% compliance, but the violations were not egregious to suggest the agreement should be trashed” https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2017/10/the-trump-administration-and-the-iran-nuclear-deal-analysis-of-noncompliance-claims?lang=en¢er=global But anyway, we know how it ends, Trump threw it away, Iran restarted up their program, and 5 years later WE ARE LESS SAFE.
Oh yeah, NK would be loathe to give up nukes, for instance. Their current regime views nuclear arms as having existential implications. Iran is in a better position not to need nukes. Being close to having might be good enough for the benefit of deterence without the pariah status of actually having them.
I had been hopeful that Trump could make a deal with NK. Unfortunately he wasn’t able to rise to the level of statesmanship needed for that. Instead it was all hollow bluster and ego.
US politicians frequently talk (and sing) about bombing Iran.
If I was an Iranian politician, I’d be wanting to get nuclear weapons as fast as possible.
Yeah my Dad was hugely critical of taking the nukes out of the former Soviet states, especially Ukraine & the Baltics. I strongly disagree with him about Trump, but he had a point about the nukes.
JCPOA was 2015. That’s well after Ukraine & the Baltics lost their nukes (which was 1991 or 1992 or thereabouts) and after Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, so no, it really wasn’t.
Hard disagree. It was a good start, and we would all be much safer if that deal was still in place.
We also now have 0 ability to negotiate ANYTHING with Iran since we are one idiot away from it being meaningless again. Even if Trump was correct that the deal was shit, he should have used the art of the deal to make it better. Instead his ego decided it was better to blow up the deal in exchange for ???
A new deal, a beautiful deal, the greatest deal the world has ever seen, and Iran is going to pay for it.
And it will be released in 2 weeks.