At GWU, protestors are calling for the beheading of school administrators, as they have refused to cave to the demands of said protestors.
@The_Polymath , do you still support these “demonstrations”?
You are linking a story from the Daily Mail…
I would generally stop doing that.
Not a credible source for factual stories.
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I immediately went to check what “Mail Online” was and realized it was just the online version of a tabloid.
Daily Mail usually has some amount of truth in their articles. They don’t always contain some.
So are you saying that the event in question did not happen because it was reported in a “non-credible source”?
Almost every story I have heard about the campus protests has mentioned a large number of non-student involvement. This is consistent with almost every protest today in the age of social media.
People burned down cities in the BLM protests. These were always people not from those cities being burned.
I think it’s ok to listen to the people who start a movement and ignore the extremists that join it later.
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If another source (credible) can be found for such a story I am happy to consider it.
But not if its only on the DM as they exagerrate stories to the Nth degree.
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The Daily Mail is notorious for simply making up articles, as well as writing intentionally misleading and inflammatory articles.
I literally do not trust a word they say until a credible source reports it. Their story seems entirely plausible, also it seems very simple to fabricate. If somebody provides me a different link I will have no surprise, but a Daily Mail link doesn’t mean news.
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Those particular quote s may be made up by the DM, I don’t know. But there have been multiple credible source that have reported on anti-Semitic and a hate speech at more than one campus demonstration including GWU.
Sure. I have seen that in the NYT and WaPo.
But @FormerActuary linked a highly inflammatory story from the DM to try to drive a narrative.
I have ample experience with the DM over here in the UK so I pointed out the issue.
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The Daily Mail was also notorious for its “no-go zones” article that was ruled by the Independent Press Standards Organization as being false. It claimed there were no-go zones for white people in Britain where Muslims would attack you for being white. Basically, one person claimed that in a book about one town. They ran with that as fact and applied it to a variety of cities.
DM about as trustworthy as The National Enquirer.
Here is a link to an NBC Affiliate article on it, with link the twitter post with video so you guys can stop shouting fake news now.
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Well, here is the key part that is (shocker) completely missing from the DM article.
This has nothing to do with Gaza. Its just your garden variety anti-capitalist DC weirdos that want the Government overthrown.
You see them around occasionally when there are protests.
And yes, I lived in DC so I understand the landscape.
This x 100
The advent of social media has also made it way to easy to influence narratives.
People (in general) tend to believe what they read without further research.
This is why I don’t like the DM. They manipulate stories to suit a specific narrative (usually inflammatory) in order to get traffic and clicks.
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It’s obvious that one call for somebody to be sent to the guillotine, one “Death to Jews”, will get more reporting than 1,000 calls for nonviolence.
It’s not hard for an agitator to get one random person to do that.
It’s so hard to get a real sense of what’s happening in these protests. I’m glad we steered the conversation back to an actual news source. It doesn’t give immense clarity but it’s actually news.
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I was right. It was the usual DC anarchists driving this.
You can round them all up if you want, but am pretty sure that won’t stop them. They have always had extreme positions.
Agreed. I have no issue with saying “some of the protestors” are too extreme and need to be rounded up given what they are doing.
The main problem with protests of the “Govt vs [insert group here]” variety is that it brings out the whackos (extreme left-wing and extreme right-wing), and they basically just want to create chaos and watch the world burn down.
Ok, but to say that these people have a right to protest when they’re calling for literal murder (assuming the story is true) is different from listening to the non-violent subsection of protesters.
Once the calls for violence begin it’s time to break it up. That kind of protesting is not protected. If the organizers can’t keep it peaceful then they don’t get to keep protesting. Sucks that bad apples ruin it for everyone else, but that’s the way it is. 
I guess my assumption is that the vast majority of peacefully protesting “students” are probably actual students at the schools while the vast majority of those causing problems are not the students and I think a good starting point is to kick out the non students, with the next step helping the student organizers with peaceful intentions keep things peaceful.
Breaking up a protest due to a few bad apples when the majority is peaceful seems like a lazy solution to the problem. Punishing large groups of people due to the actions of a few seems to be one of the reasons for the protests to begin with.
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Subtle.
The rhetoric clearly implies the point of the encampment is to be anti Israel. That’s quite a slant, if you allow for the possibility that it is against the Israeli prosecution of the “war”. I am on record acknowledging that the anti war protest gives cover to diehard anti semites. But let’s be cautious about labeling the entire movement as anti semitic.
In a similar vein: when young people (under 25) use the phrase “I don’t feel safe”, it can mean something much different than a fear of physical harm. Triggered anyone? It seems to indicate any state of discomfort or anxiety. It’s complicated.