I am hearing this a lot, can some one point to a real study that shows this? This forum has been pretty good about backing up claims.
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Delta variant is most common in US right now, so based on CDC tracker - no major change for the kids groups on a per 1,000 basis.
CDC COVID Data Tracker
“Children are spared the severe consequences of COVID-19 and less likely to spread it, and I think that remains true for the delta variant despite scary headlines,” Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease expert and a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security
“Hospitalizations are not increasing in children as a result of the delta variant, so they still seem at low risk of COVID-19 even with this variant,” said Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease specialist with the University of California, San Francisco.
American Academy of Pediatricians - “At this time, it still appears that severe illness due to COVID-19 is rare among children.”
So no, just media talking points.
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You know what, It’s something I’ve been reading and seeing a lot but I don’t know that I’ve seen a study. I found this WaPo article where a doctor says, “cases have jumped for kids,” but I don’t see data to back that up. My state does not report new cases by age group—only overall age group distribution. So I would have to track that daily or weekly to know if it’s changed.
This is just lazy reporting → raw cases are up across the board. So “big jump in kids cases!”, ignoring rates.
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I’m not sure delta is more problematic for kids from a severity standpoint than the other variants but it is supposedly 2.5x more likely to get it than prior variants in those under 50 and children per an English study. So more transmission mean more cases which probably mean more sever cases by gross numbers even if the percentages of cases that are severe remain the same.
I found a filter for my state’s data and kids are definitely making up a higher % of Covid cases in the last 2 weeks than overall. I don’t have the breakdown specifically from a year ago though. But I know active cases now are about the same as a year ago. If I apply the overall distribution to last year’s cases, and the new higher distribution to current cases, we’re only talking about 40 more cases in kids compared to this time last year.
But if we see increases once school starts, and if Delta is 50 times more transmissible than whatever strain we had last year…
Well that’s a lot of ifs but I see a lot of kids becoming infected. Hopefully the people that say kids are still highly unlikely to become severely ill are right. Hopefully it’s “just the flu”.
I’m only looking at the data for my state so YMMV.
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Shouldn’t this be true due to adults being vaxxed and kids not eligible to be vaxxed?
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Im about to send 2 kids to school and I have also been looking for some real studies about what their risk is now. So far I just see a bunch of stories playing on the emotions of parents telling them their kids are gonna get sick. YT has a real study… but it groups kids in with anyone under 50 which doesn’t tell us much. And maybe 2.5x isnt a big number, we dont have a basis to compare it to.
We are about to massively live test transmission in kids in about a month. would be nice to have a read on how screwed we are about to be.
Me, wife, grandparents all vaccinated. So if kids get sick, hopefully we will have some protection from spreading it more.
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So another friend of mine got Covid. She can’t be vaccinated for health reasons, so I’m kind of extra pissed at people who can be choosing to not get vaccinated.
And I’m feeling kind of guilty because we went out to a kind of crowded restaurant for dinner a few weeks ago so now I’m wondering if that’s where she caught it. Restaurant was picked because I had a time constraint and it’s near my house.
That said, she’s the one who always wants to go out. I suggested that we get takeout and eat in. But she likes going out. So in that sense it’s on her, but I did pick the restaurant.
And regardless of who’s to blame it just sucks. She’s achey and miserable and everything tastes awful. 
Freaking Covid… I hate you!
A key word there is “severe breakthroughs.” In previous CDC communications they indicated they would not even be tracking mild/asymptomatic breakthrough infections. While the asymptomatic ones are unlikely to spread, mild breakthrough infections can still spread to others.
This annoys me. We are relying on data from Israel and the UK because the CDC isn’t bothering to track our own data.
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That’s on her. I avoided restaurants prior to being vaccinated. If I wasn’t vaccinated, I still would avoid them.
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Yeah, i wouldn’t feel guilty. She chose to eat out, and she approved your choice of place.
It sucks, and you should feel bad for your friend, of course. But it’s not your fault.
(I mean, if it were me, i probably would feel guilty, but it’s irrational. Try not to.)
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For the rest of your life?
I’m not disputing that she took more risks than required, but I also get that she’s sick of being prevented from going out.
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I don’t know. The take on delta though is that everyone is going to get it eventually. So, she needs to assume she will get it, particularly if she’s taking risks like going to a crowded restaurant.
yeah, it sucks. Hopefully she will get through it, but it seemed inevitable here if she’s the first to suggest doing fun things in crowded places.
Yeah, I think that’s probably an accurate take.
dont play the fault/blame game here. Hope your friend gets through it and you can move on with life. Bright side is if they can fully recover and live on with some natural immunity.
maybe better to get delta now and recover than something worse later.
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I went to an indoor high intensity gym before a vaccine was available to me, fully aware I was exposing myself (and on two occasions I did work out right next to someone who tested positive for Covid a few days later). I was okay with the risk. It sounds like your friend decided she was okay with that risk too wanting to go out. So nothing at all on you.
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Turns out I was using daily #’s, so 40 kids a day. This week. Less last week. Next week? Who knows?