Funerals and Gravestones

Could someone check on Serena? I’m worried something has happened to her.

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I’ll pretend you’re not being sarcastic.

Thanks. I’m not doing well today. I should stop posting.

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I’m sorry; I was continuing the joke about those comments indicating an ignorance of how actuaries around here “debate/discuss” things on this forum.

Not sarcastic: I’m sorry you’re not doing well. I hope you feel better soon.

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Huh, part of the Jewish service is for all the mourners to line up and throw a shovelful of dirt into the grave. So I’ve seen the box lowered into the ground every single time. Except for the military one, where they had the service at a pretty place up front, and then we drove several miles through the cemetery to find the gravesite, and the workers had already lowered it into the ground when we got there. But they did provide a pile of loose soil and a spade, and it looked like the same casket they had draped the flag over.

Symbolically burying your dead is a very visceral thing. People routinely burst into tears. I can’t imagine anyone jumping into the grave, though.

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Eek, that’s supposed to be “hugs”, not, “jazz hands”.

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take my organs and cremate me as soon as it’s final. don’t prop up the dead me for show at a viewing. waste of money and good chemicals. spend that money on a party.

gravesite (pre engraved or not) - waste IMO. If people want to remember me, I guess a plaque on a park bench is cool. hope it is walkable to a bar or ice cream shop.

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Yes I want the tree growing ontop of me to have a plaque that slowly gets absorbed into the trunk :judge:

I told my kids that funeral rites are for the living, and they can do whatever they want with my dead body.

The cemetery where we buried my dad started out with lots of bronze plaques, but over the years, I have seen more and more marble and granite headstones.

Ive A brother who works for a synagogue. He’s got some wild stories.
I guess it’s a thing that family bury the deceased. Normally that means everyone throws a shovelful and then staff finish the job. Rabbi got po’ed one time at a funeral where the weather was pouring rain, made the family stay there and fill the entire hole.

The one cemetery also has a gravestone way off in the distance. Iirc, buddy married someone who wasn’t orthodox. So they buried him outside the lines. Like he’s in the tulips at the back.

As for the pine box thing, they’re not well constructed. If youre 400lbs, the box doesn’t always make it to the burial site intact.

A lot of family drama. He’s been telling one guy for years not to park on the lawn because it’s wet. When we were up moose hunting, buddy looks around, doesn’t see my brother, and wheels on to the lawn. the staff sent my brother a pic of the guys car buried up to the door sill lol.

So let’s say youre married for 30 years, kids etc. Your spouse dies, and you remarry. You could be married to your second spouse for 30 years to. So who do you get buried beside?

FIL is buried between them. Of course, neither had a spouse prior to him, so they wouldn’t have had someone else to be buried by.

I would expect having the surviving spouse was to save the space. Now if you end up getting married to someone else after, whom you would rather be buried beside, then you can probably make money by replacing the headstone and selling the unused space. As they say invest in land, they’re not making any more of it.

Doesn’t work as well in those cemeteries where they bury spouses on top of each other rather than beside one another.

They shouldn’t be well constructed. They are temporary, just meant to hide the corpse until it’s in the ground. If you are 400 lbs, maybe your family should spring for the heavy-duty one, but for most people, the cheaper the better.

The one your kids want you beside. You won’t care.

My step-great-grandma is next to her first husband. She was a really awesome lady. My biological great grandma died when my dad was a kid. I don’t know how long after that grandma Leola came into the picture.

She was really the only great grandma I ever knew (and her husband was the only great grandpa I ever knew). One other was alive long enough for me to remember her, but she had Alzheimer’s so I never “knew her”.

Reminds me of this:

[Quote=Matthew 22:23-33]
The same day Sadducees came to him, who say that there is no resurrection, and they asked him a question, saying, “Teacher, Moses said, ‘If a man dies having no children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother.’ Now there were seven brothers among us. The first married and died, and having no offspring left his wife to his brother. So too the second and third, down to the seventh. After them all, the woman died. In the resurrection, therefore, of the seven, whose wife will she be? For they all had her.”
But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God: ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.” And when the crowd heard it, they were astonished at his teaching.
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Other than Mormons, are there any significant US sects that think marriage outlasts life?

Yes but I might care then, I just don’t know how Admittedly, irrationally. There’s one or two things I’m irrational about when it comes to being buried.
I feel like there should be some sort of cultural norm for this.