Electric Vehicles

I don’t think I could I distinguish between the Svs3 and XvsY, at least not quickly. They all look the same from across the room.

Humanoid robots feel like this generations Segway.

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Agreed. C-3PO was just eye candy. R2D2 did all the work.

That’s Tesla-ist!!

I do know if I see a Tesla coupe that looks interesting, it will be an S. But that not all S’s look interesting. An X has door handles positioned like a minivan, a Y does not. If it looks like a Hyundai, it is a newer Y. They are all the same 4 colors.

This is annoying. When I ordered my Model Y, there were 4-5 colors, I could get black or white interior, and yes/no on a tow hitch. I got the Performance variant, other trims can upgrade wheels, but that’s it. There are a few add-ons like wheel locks and all-season floor mats. But yeah, you can’t really customize your car from the factory. I paid $1k for blue, fwiw, with black interior.

And for years the only free color was white, everything else cost like $1,000+, so a LOT of Teslas were/are white. They’ve played with it since and offered other colors for free, it rotates.

And yes, before I got mine, and for about the first six months I owned mine, I couldn’t distinguish a Y from a 3. At a distance I couldn’t distinguish any Tesla model but I figured out the S/X pretty quickly.

Well, this should prove interesting.

The S and the X were the high end versions. More expensive, more powerful, more bells and whistles. My understanding was that the 3 was the best selling car, but was hard to sell at a profit. So are they not going to have a high end model anymore (>$100k)?

I have a 2018 S and was about ready for an upgrade to the newer version. So now wondering what I would get.

The Y is their best selling model. Going forward, at least for the near term, they will only offer the 3, Y, and cyber truck.

I don’t know what to recommend, the Lucid looks hot but I’ve heard the software isn’t on par with Tesla, and they don’t have many service centers. The Neue Class stuff coming out from BMW is looking like it could be gold.

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Don’t really disagree with this one.

“Minimalist aesthetic,” with maximalist complications internally.

Maybe the Porsche Taycan.

The Big Three US automakers have had multi-billion $ EV write-offs and appear to have largely abandoned the EV marketplace. Canada has reintroduced significant EV purchase subsidies but that demand will be met by Asian car manufacturers.

Only a matter of years before no US cars will be built in or imported into Canada. Their market share is already a fraction of what the Japanese are building in Canada.

I kind of wonder what the future of US car manufacturers is. My dad and his wife both own massive vehicles (Chevy Avalanche and a Honda Pilot). Most of my friends seem to own vastly smaller vehicles. What happens after their generation dies off? The Asian manufacturers seem more willing to produce smaller vehicles that are more practical in cities.

Most of the opponents of EVs in Canada seem to be from rural areas and wanting a vehicle with 800-1,200 km range for their daily driver. With my current vehicle, I’m averaging 136 km/week and that includes a round trip to Labrador (6 day drive there and back). I suspect a lot of urban drivers are similar. I don’t need 800 km range. I usually want a break from driving every 3-4 hours, more often if I need to pee. I only do a few multi-hour drives a year. I think as the charging network grows and charging speeds improve, I’m reaching a point where an EV makes sense as my next car. The $5k plus a trade in for an EV Kona is looking more attractive. I’m tempted by the BYD Atto, but I’m not sure that NL will have good customer support.

We will do an in-between move this year and buy a plug-in hybrid. Toyota makes them in Ontario so they are eligible for the EV rebate. We already have a charging station in our garage as our SIL had an EV when he and his family lived with us for a year.

Prices are less than I expected. Probably less than what they cost in the US which is a historic change.

I think this is an exaggeration. Ford’s failure to crack into the huge consumer pickup market aside, GM is making more EV models than Tesla now (assuming the Bolt is out, if not it is close). The administration’s gutting of CAFE removed the pressure from the seller side, so the market is now buyer driven (even without tax incentives). Stellantis is just its normal stupid self.

It will be hard for GM to sell Bolts made in the USA outside of the USA. But maybe US sales is all they need. And tariff barriers will be needed for their US sales to keep out the Chinese EVs.

Yes GM will have trouble competing outside the US with US built vehicles. Pretty much all non-Chinese makers will have problems. I do think they are trying to make a go on EVs though. Regulatory whiplash is tough to deal with.

This just in…

In the future, your electric car is going to really be fueled by coal, if Donny has anything to say about it.