Super disappointing range, that could be less than 200 highway miles. It’s a freaking van, should be the ultimate road trip vehicle. I also feel like $60k+ is pretty strong.
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Yeah, not on my list with those specs/price combos.
I think the buzz is going to dissipate rapidly with those specs.
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I wonder if this was a “let’s half-ass it and collect a premium from people who want the form factor over all else”. Not sure what else makes sense.
Doesn’t seem like anyone is even coming close to where Lucid is in terms of efficiency. They are at 5 mpkWh while the others are in the 3-4 mpkWh range.
I believe the closest to Lucid that is currently available in the US (there are some concept cars that are more efficient) is the Hyundai Ioniq 6. It comes in at 140 MPGe compared to Lucid’s 146. To convert to mi/kWh seems to be multiply by 33.7. I think the MPGe numbers might be a bit off because it seems the Ioniq 6 is getting 4.2 m/kWh in other articles. Nevertheless, Lucid is getting the best out there at the moment.
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Their cars have some impressive specs with models in the 400-500 mile range. Certainly expensive as they are up their with the top tier Model S versions.
Seems like it represents what should be achievable today. If you can get 500 miles out of a full charge and top up another 200 miles in a couple of stops throughout the day, you could road trip the way Twig expects.
MPGe is based on 1 gal gas = 33.7kWh. And like MPG the standard disclaimer, YMeMV.
Insightful article.
https://insideevs.com/news/730788/why-evs-arent-cheap/
I mean, if the 100%-0% range is 500 miles… let’s say you start out 90% charged, you could go 400 miles or so before charging. At that point you’re 5+ hours in the saddle, you really need to stop for a half hour, should net you more like 300 miles of range. you’re now talking about a 700 mile trip with one stop. Two pit stops would net you a thousand miles with two half-hour breaks, that feels close to the limits of the human bladder.
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I take less than a half hour to pee. Would probably prefer three or four 15 minute stops, but that still seems doable, subject to the availability and spacing of chargers.
That said, if I was taking one of those on a road trip I think I’d start with 98% charge … maybe 99%. I’m probably getting on the highway right away, so not much opportunity for regenerative braking in the first few miles.
Are you not eating, or just grabbing something and eating in the car? I know when I was in my 20s I’d stop just long enough to pee, grab a sandwich and soda, and eat it in the car. But these days I like to stop every 3-4 hours and walk around a little bit, and not stare at the long white line for a few minutes.
In an ICE I usually go through the drive thru and pee when I’m getting gas.
Eat in the car.
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Well, with 500 miles of range, you could go do something like:
Drive: -400
Charge: +300
Drive: -350
Charge: +300
Drive: -300
Finish with 50 left. Charge overnight back to 500.
I read you could get +200 in a 15 minute charge, so hopefully you are still in fast charging range where you can get 300 in 22 minutes.
1050 miles and 15 hours is more than enough driving in a day on less than an hour of stoppage time.
Charging is not linear, unlike gas-tank-filling.
You could do all that with 400 miles of range.
EV Q2 2024 sales are up 11% on Q2 2023. Still growing, despite several people telling me that sales are dropping.
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Based on this article on used EVs to target, out of curiosity I looked for one in my area. Right now a loaded 2024 BMW iX xDrive50 with 8k miles is asking $64k. No accidents, clean carfax. Sticker for this car was over 100K. That’s a nice discount for a low mileage car.
No, I’m not buying now.
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BMW overtakes Tesla in Europe. We’ll see if it holds.