Hydrogen is more for heavy industry.
Electric engines are not going to replace ICE Engines in cranes, heavy trucks etc
I know a few people looking at this in the UK and EU.
Aren’t most heavy duty machines diesel-electric driven, ie the ICE drives a generator that powers electric motors in all the systems?
Unsure about that one.
I was mostly talking about a hydrogen combustion engine. Been in the development stages for many years. High power output, and can also work in areas that do not have charging infrastructure.
NL is trying to jump into the market for wind powered hydrogen production for the European market. Recent analysis by one of the major financial firms suggests the hydrogen market is collapsing as EVs are eating their lunch. The vehicles are vastly more reliable and cost effective.
On the other hand, it sounds like hydrogen might be a decent option for transport trucks.
I think I’ve read that many of those vehicles might already be electric. Not the ones you see at construction sites, but the ones at a lot of mines.
And crash proof? What happens to a car with a full tank of hydrogen when it’s in a collision? Are they safe enough to not blow up like Hindenburg did?
That’s where I’m at. I’d like an EV. I’m in a position where I have a 10-year-old vehicle that’s fine and money to burn for a new vehicle.
Because EVs still seem to be in a nascent phase, I’m trying to keep my car another 5-10 years until there are more chargers and the tech has improved and become cheaper (relative to non-EVs anyway). I’ll probably get solar panels first and an EV within a year or so after.
Do you need chargers available?
Again, it is not a vehicle for long-distance travel (except for the bravehearted), probably not until chargers become profitable (or least a lure to tourist traps and restaurants and stuff like that). And charging from home is convenient and a lot cheaper.
The hydrogen is liquid (stored under pressure) while in the Zeppelin it was a gas (which was super crazy).
The main risk is safe storage of the liquid hydrogen in protected tanks (this requires improved materials).
Hydrogen is also (most likely) the future of clean aviation.
Disagree. I have nearly 27K on our vw id4 over the last 18 months that says otherwise.
Well, i wouldnt take it on a long distance trip without getting paid to write about my experience.
And several friends have home chargers, and they never complain about the cost or the difficulty.
Are you anywhere near raistiln?
If you want to dip into EV but concerned about your new car becoming obsolete too soon, there are some great deals on 3 year leases right now.
As dtnf mentioned, it will depend on your charging situation. If you have a garage/driveway you can use your dryer outlet to charge at level 2 which will get you from 20 to 80% in around 6-7 hours.
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How long from 20 to 40?
If the driver is not going 50 miles that day, makes less sense (saves more cents) to fill it.
Unlike gasoline where the first gallon input costs the same as the last gallon input.
Yes, tons of EVs are on lease. Not sure how the “value at end” is determined, which is where they’ll fuck ya.
So, uh, what happens to the liquid hydrogen when the car crashes and the tank is damaged and leaks? Does it stay liquid at the ambient outdoor temperatures that we experience here on planet earth?
Storing it in a hardened container (liquid form) vs putting it in a blimp as a gas are very different things.
One spark in the blimp structure as a gas and…boom.
Its much more of a risk.
When its inside a container in liquid form you can take steps to reduce the possibility of a containment breach (not just via the casing but also by having redundancy systems in place that can make the hydrogen less flammable if it is exposed to the oxygen in the air (by using inert gases like nitrogen and also carbon dioxide).
Peace Vans has worked out details to make camper versions of the US ID Buzz available right away. They need more time to design and get approval for a pop top though. That’s expected late 2025. I’m waiting.
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US ID Buzz pricing and range info released. Range is disappointing to me.
That and the, “Oh, you want color, and not greyscale? That’ll cost you.” I mean, really.
Oh, and the cost. $60K+?
You’d think they could find more space for more batteries in a vehicle that big.
Wait two years, buy for $30K.
Given ranges on their other EVs, I’m wondering if the upcoming Kia PV5 or PV7 might be a better bet.
Probably need to check what the lease terms will be, and if Uber Drivers will find it profitable.