Forgetting the difference in finding a highly visible pump vs a charger that actually works.
To me, the car market can be split by type of residence, and type of commute/use, and for most groups EVs are not feasible.
You got a market of SFR with a short commute. Perfect for EVs. They can charge cheap at home once they configure their house.
And, there’s everyone else.
Apartment dwellers, renters, people drive too far at a single clip, people who don’t drive at all, etc. Car companies shouldn’t even bother with them. But, a sale is a sale.
40% of EV owners are considering NOT an EV for their next car. Stupid people in the wrong group duped into buying one. Got smart a week too late, imo.
Funny, just about every person I’ve spoke to personally that owns an EV is happy with them. I’d be interested to know where you the got the 40% figure from. Of course, it’s in the interest of fossil fuel companies to talk them down as much as they can on the internet. People who I’ve met who dissed them have either never driven one or had one bad experience renting one.
I guess everyone’s an authority on subjects they’ve had little experience with nowadays.
Don’t need the pumps to be visible if the car knows where they are. Now reliability of DC chargers, let’s just say EA has room for improvement.
I do agree that pump visibility is a problem. I believe it initially was to avoid the pumps being ICEd. Unfortunately it does mean that the pumps are sometimes at the far end of the parking lot, which is not great for single female drivers at night. Hopefully this will improve.
Or it means the next car has a different use case than the ev they are using now. It doesn’t mean the ev they have doesn’t work well for its particular use case and they aren’t happy with it.
My 15 yo minivan might be the next car to need replacement. Right now there is 1 maybe 2 ev choices for a 7-8 passenger vehicles. I might not be able to go ev even if i am fine adding 1hr to the 500 mile days our summer trips normally have.
An electrician friend of mine bought a Ford Lightning last year. He puts 35k a year on a work truck. He seems pretty happy with his decision, and has saved $4500 in gas in the last year.
Not an EV, but I assume a Pacifica Hybrid is on your list? I have had that at the top of my list to replace my minivan, although I have not done any serious thinking about this yet.
Kinsey survey, so grain of salt. I’ll find a link in a couple of days.
You were righ. I’m surprised the figure (46% in the US, 29% worldwide) is so high. The main reasons for buyer remorse are the charging network and the cost of the vehicle.
I’ve had very little trouble with the charging network, other than not being able to do a quick detour via Yellowstone. However, I’m more comfortable with arithmetic than most - so can calculate how much charge is needed and when to slow down if conditions change.
It appears there is a correlation between countries with poor charging networks and buyers remorse - Australia has a very poor charging network.
No, the Kinsey survey, in which EV owners were dissatisfied with the sex they were having in their cars.
jk
Yes, I may have looked at a few sex surveys before realizing it might be a different spelling.
Those demanding Gen X’s and their range expectations -
Apparently Australia has a high number of Luddites -
and Germany a high number of petrol heads -
60% are more likely to buy another.
Honestly, it would be hard for someone to buy one as their only auto. Two-car families are a better demographic
I’d love to get an EV for the brief part of my commute that involves driving. Could charge it at home and never worry about gas. But it should be cheap. If we hadn’t become so anti free trade I’d jump at buying a small 10k Chinese EV.
Just last week completed a trip from PNW to New England via Kansas. Learned a few new things:
Managed to get down to 2% (sadly never to 1%) 5 stops in a row. I was pretty chuffed but one more would probably have led to divorce. I calculated that aiming to finish at 10% was only going to add a couple of minutes.
We charged at 25 different charging stations but only had to wait once (at Buffalo, NY). This could have been avoided as there were quite a few options to charge beforehand but we were a little complacent on the last day.
Extreme heat affects efficiency, particularly with a 40 mph crosswind. If there’s a headwind and one is running low on charge, one can always draft behind semis but this doesn’t work with extreme heat crosswinds.
Had the unusual circumstance where a storm took out the power for a town halfway through charging. Luckily we had enough to get to the next station.
A couple of times (first time I’d experienced it) the charger started OK, we walked into Walmart and later when checking the app, realized that the charger had failed after a couple of minutes. They both failed within the first couple of minutes, so if we delay leaving the car for a few minutes and then check it should be OK.
Sadly missed out on St Louis this time. There were 3 charging stations in a row with several chargers down. One had no chargers, another had only one left and the other had two left. They looked to be always full so we took a more northerly route (very pretty) which took an extra 45 minutes.
We had a few more good food options this trip. Most stops featured a Walmart - I like their egg sandwich and BBQ chicken wraps. One or more stations had a nearby Chipotle, Culvers, Starbucks, Greek gyros, Meijer sushi, Subway, McDonalds, Chick Fil A, Caseys (for pizza), Costco and various other burger places.
In the west, stations tended to be just off the highway and in the east were further off. This meant that we tended to do longer stints in the east as the time gain by charging more frequently was lost by the extra time getting to each station.
Saw our first Silverado EV. Also saw a couple of Cadillac Lyriqs and some Kia EV9s (very nice).
Sounds like a real adventure.
Our neighbor just got one of those. It’s a good-looking car.
Go to China.
Pack it in your suitcase.
Guys. A man stopped me outside a sandwich shop to ask me about my Tesla. Older guy, says his wife wants an EV, he is skeptical. Asks me all of the usual questions. Battery life, charging on the road, charging at home, is it fun, etc. He heard they were pretty quick, is that true?
Neither of us got political, I told him all of the facts I know and gave him honest opinions - no, they aren’t perfect but yes, I’d buy another EV. And he said he’d arrange for a test drive with his wife.


