Am I blind or are the DWS table-based salary surveys gone? All I see are the charts…
That’s all I see also.
Yes, it’s been that way for a couple months at least, bummer.
Can’t you recreate a table using the formulas on the charts?
Wait, we didn’t all boycott this survey out of principle this year?
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How do you boycott information?
Boycott responding to their survey requests and boycott their placement services.
Dunno but this gives me a reason to just not visit their website
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I don’t think so. Table was 10-90 percentiles, formulas give you point estimates
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Yeah, this happened a while ago. Maybe even around the same time that they took down the AO. I remember thinking that DWS was making a bunch of dumb decisions all at once. Why kill their most useful resources?
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Maybe now they provide that information only if you use their services.
If you want ranges, Ezra Penland has ranges: Actuarial Salary Surveys for Actuaries, the Leading Actuary Source | Ezra Penland Actuarial Recruitment
Like DW Simpson, Actuarialcareers does not have ranges, but they have interesting ways of looking at it: 2020 Salary Survey Results - Actuarial Careers
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Well, as usual, I’m not even at the lowest point for my YOS and credential on the life survey (what I work in now) but I’m just barely inside the range for pensions, my prior area. Of course, I’m making >20% more now than I did when I worked in pensions, so…not really comforting, I guess.
Ezrp surveys always seemed crazy high to me
If I remember right, Ezra Penland shows a bigger range than DWS did. So maybe DWS was middle 75% (I forget) but Ezra Penland shows middle 85%, so the top end looks relatively high.
Also I am looking at Ezra Penland right now and it is unclear to me if this is total comp or salary.
But I tend to agree the EP has looked high to me.
DW Simpson was the middle 80%, I think. So 10% made less and 10% made more.
Ezra Penland asked me for total comp when i filled out their survey.
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Glad I’m not the only one. I look at the surveys and even though I live in the 'Po I’m not in the bottom of my range.
Unless, do people factor in health/life insurance, etc. to total compensation? Maybe I’m in reach of the lowest end.
Someone asked me to talk to a group of HS students about the career. Are entry level sals in the $60K-$75K range depending on exams? (possibly higher)
Just checking to see that I read the surveys right, but also if anyone has a recent hire experience that tells me this is crazy low or high (less likely).
thanks
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I think it’ll vary a bit in order of influence by…
number of exams
geography
specifics of work (how demanding, etc.)
But yeah I’d agree with your range
I would also say though that the lucrative part of actuarial really relies on getting through most/all of the exams.
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