DONALD AND MELANIA TRUMP HAVE COVID-19!

And guys want to be him.

Sadly, a lot of people really do feel that way.

they do? I find Trump to be a horrible unattractive human being. I think outside of his crazy base, women do not find his personality attractive.

Strong, intelligent leaders are attractive, not bullies who spout conspiracy theory nonsense.

I don’t feel it myself, and I don’t know anybody who feels it. So I’m just guessing here.

There’s a lot of stories about a renegade alpha male, who is basically a huge jerk for no reason, but you’re supposed to think he’s sexy and cool.

Trump has to maintain the illusion, the fabrication, of his persona of his image. It is why he lies about every aspect of his health. It is why he cannot say he lost the election. Losing the election destroys his image as a winner. The image is what his supporters see, not the man. His image is a personification of their individual desires born from internalized fears (fears stoked by the media they consume*). The strong healthy white male winner is god’s chosen leader. That’s the fabrication, with each aspect appealing to a different cohort of his followers. Once a person embraces this image, this belief, they cling to it as long as they fear. They get angry when forced to face reality that compromises their belief.

People want gods, patterns of reason where neither exist. A farmer needs a reason to see past the fickleness of nature. The hunter gatherer has spirits to explain the unknown. The people need cultural myths to justify their subjugation of other people. On and on it goes. See the patterns? What are the reasons?

  • fears stoked by media is not just a conservative thing. It effects all of us.

Seems to me that both already have unhidable cognitive decline, although I suppose not serious decline. Watching video of either from 20 years ago (but especially Trump) is pretty surprising.

Aside. I just accidentally discovered how easy it is to quote here. I’d looked for a quote button shortly after joining, but hadn’t thought about it since.

Possibly. Might have to define “serious” be bit better before actually making the bet…

Interesting. I’ve seen the Trump comparison – it was pretty striking even when he was first elected, and he’s visibly gone downhill since. I haven’t checked old footage of Biden.

Give the follow-up test was (presumably) negative, I can understand the decision to do the debate.

However, he later blamed the Gold Star Families (families of soldiers that died in battle) for giving him COVID “they want to hug me and they want to kiss me.” That was considered a dick move at the time.

But now we know, it wasn’t a dick move, but actually an evil ******** psycho **** move since he knew they hadn’t given him COVID. In fact, he gave them COVID, along with a lot of other people.

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The timing fits in a lot better with his admission and recovery from COVID.

He had two more days to test before the debate - did he just skip those?

Recall how Trump basically shouted at Biden for the entire debate? Good thing the Biden team insisted on the separation rules.

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No, I don’t believe a sociopath would try to give his opponent COVID.

/red

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trump is a scumbag, but covid doesn’t exist according to his supporters or biden obviously did something a million times worse, so it doesn’t matter.

Wow, I assumed that when no one would say when Trump was last tested before his positive result, that they were just hiding how little he was tested. This is much, much worse.

really? this just seemed obvious to me when it happened. he was trying to kill joe biden.

I’m more cynical than you, Dara. He showed up at the very last minute, too late for the on-site testing that had been planned. I believed then that it had been on purpose, because they knew he’d test positive. Now I’m sure.

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Now more curious about this negative test he had.

Or how many tests it took to get a negative one.

why do we assume the negative test actually happened at all?

It sounds like he followed up the positive test with an at home test instead of a PCR test. Unless Binax also makes PCR tests?

However, Meadows notes that some of the concerns were allayed once the sample was retested using a rapid antigen test which returned a negative result.

If we assume (optimistically) that they took a PCR test, and then correctly did a BinaxNow test. The evidence would still suggest he had COVID.

The PCR test has a 5% false-positive rate, while BinaxNow catches 85% of cases.

But yeah, on top of that, I’m skeptical there was a test at all.