COVID mortality

meep · February 22, 2022, 5:18pm

Okay, so I’ve started pulling state-level mortality rates (both crude and age-adjusted), and yeah, a lot of the states are pretty complete for 2021 (EXCEPT NORTH CAROLINA YOU SUCK – yes, a few other states also lag, but they’re small population, unlike NC), so I will be able to do some comparisons.

I will dump the COVID-specific comparisons in here (yes, both crude and age-adjusted), and the all-cause in the other mortality thread. That will be later today.

meep · February 22, 2022, 11:21pm

Okay, some initial results from the COVID age-adjusted mortality rates

Top ten states (in worst COVID death rates):

Tile grid map:

You can go over here for the all-cause death rates:
https://community-new.goactuary.com/t/mortality-trends-non-pandemic/1388/85?u=meep

meep · February 23, 2022, 10:28am

Okay, here’s the post:
Geography of Mortality: State Ranking by Increase in Total Mortality and COVID Mortality, 2020-2021, Provisional

meep · February 26, 2022, 3:40pm

1695814 · February 26, 2022, 4:04pm

text and some graphs

Click this link: https://outline.com/uLJjHT

meep · February 26, 2022, 10:17pm

Paper the article is based on:

a figure:

meep · March 11, 2022, 7:04pm

Hmm.

1695814 · March 11, 2022, 7:23pm

Hmm…might this reclassification then result in a noticeable uptick in non-COVID mortality or is the additional amount not significant for that class?

PatientZombie · March 11, 2022, 7:36pm

the problem is there are at least five distinct categories that need to be defined and I don’t really think anyone can

People who died from COVID
People who died with COVID, not truly mitigated by COVID
People who died with COVID, mitigated by COVID, death not otherwise imminent
People who died with COVID, mitigated by COVID, death was otherwise imminent
People who had COVID, died from other causes that were exasperated by COVID

3rookie · March 11, 2022, 8:14pm

For full disclosure, I would add a category:
6. People who died from a COVID vaccine - 10 (or whatever the low number to date is).

I have not seen an update since July. 6,000 people had died who had received a vaccine at that point, but only 3 FROM the vaccine.

meep · March 11, 2022, 9:04pm

So, I pull data from CDC WONDER:

I primarily use the Underlying Cause of Death databases -
https://wonder.cdc.gov/Deaths-by-Underlying-Cause.html

(COVID has code U07.1)

and this:

There can be only one UCD per death certificate.

As of pulling right now, this is what I get for Massachusetts:

In the grand scheme of things, it’s not a lot of deaths.

Here it is if I want to check out deaths where it’s just on one of the multiple causes of death (you can have up to 20 of those on a death certificate)

So there’s your “involving COVID” deaths, and the first count is a proper subset of this count.

Lucy · March 12, 2022, 1:17pm

I think you want to say “aggravated by covid”. You certainly don’t want to say “mitigated by covid”.

And execerbated, not exasperated

SteveGrondin · March 12, 2022, 5:18pm

I think.

Mathman · March 15, 2022, 1:01pm

@meep well, my brother has done it again. He sent me a chart ‘proving’ the vaccine is killing people aged 25-44. The chart that supports the claim shows excess deaths, and spikes starting in March of 2020. I think you said you’d seen this as well. A vaccine so deadly, it started killing people before they even got it.

meep · March 15, 2022, 1:20pm

OH FFS

Anyway, let your brother know about the drug overdoses:

I promise you, the drug people are overdosing on ain’t the vaccines.

Mathman · March 15, 2022, 1:25pm

THANK YOU, I did point out overdoses and couldn’t put my finger on that post, you saved me some time there. :h5:

meep · March 15, 2022, 2:37pm

There are also motor vehicle accidents:

I will be putting the parts together soon. I have one more part for drug overdoses (geographic spread).

The highest relative mortality increase was for adults age 25-44. I will break out the components. I have been addressing the non-COVID bits.

Lucy · March 16, 2022, 11:57am

I grabbed this from today’s post by “your local epidemiologist”. Her point was to show what a good pandemic response looks like. But i was also stuck by the slope of the US curve. We still have a lot of covid mortality every day.