COVID mortality

And this is bad for lapse-supported products, such as level-term.

For you non-life folks: charge someone a flat premium for a term of usually 10, or 15, or 20 years. The premium is way too high, relative to their chance of dying, in the early years and way too low in the late years and about right in the middle. You build up a reserve in the early years to cover the inadequate premium in the late years.

Unlike whole life policies, level term policies do NOT build a cash value. (In theory they probably should, but in actuality they definitely don’t.) So the best thing that can happen to the insurance company is for the policyholder to overpay for the first ~50% of the term and then walk away from the lean later years when they’d otherwise be underpaying.

If that’s not happening as much as the insurer thought it would, that’s an additional squeeze.

Ok in all my continuing ed this year I was hearing 20%, no 40%. Surely excess mortality wasn’t higher in 21 vs 20?

Ok mpc talks about this in her blog so go there. Was 40% just for 3rd quarter?

The lower lapses goes both ways. If EVERYBODY has similar lapse improvement, then it is good for the insurer. At some point, you prefer people to lapse, but lapse rates are typically very low anyway at that time.

I was seeing 20-30% (can vary during the year) overall during the pandemic. I think 2021 excess mortality was worse than 2020, even removing Q1 2020 from the equation.

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Depends on the insurer’s mix of business and how much (by dollar) is lapse-supported vs not, but for many insurers this is probably the case. If an insurer is heavy on level term and other lapse-supported products then it could be bad. Level Term is a popular and competitively priced product with not a lot of wiggle room.

I would not have expected that to be the result. But the vaccines didn’t roll out until February, IIRC, and most people wouldn’t have hit their “fully protected” date until 2nd quarter or close to it, so I’m guessing 1st quarter was pretty bad.

Also, speaking for myself… I gained 15 pounds during the pandemic. And, um, let’s just say that I did not start the pandemic 15 pounds underweight. :grimacing:

Talking to friends and co-workers it seems that I am not an outlier. If the whole country gained 15 pounds on average, I expect you’d see that in mortality stats.

I have no data other than anecdotal to suggest that the average adult gained 15 pounds, but it seems plausible.

Not as simple a product, but basically what killed LTC, that and low interest on the cash build up

The 15 pounds is a thing. My wife baked a lot. I luckily stayed my normal obese self

She gained, but has worked to lose it

As for excess mortality, I am curious how it is calculated and does 2020 mortality raise 2021 expectations, even though I would tend to exclude it

I actually looked at the CDC data – it couldn’t have been for before 2021Q3

Third quarter was ugly, and yes most of the “death wave” in 3rd quarter was from COVID, and was mainly older folks. But if we’re looking at relative impacts, it’s on younger people.

Here’s my stacked column by age, including the old people:

Both graphs are based on total deaths, not solely COVID deaths

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15 lbs is not going to have a noticeable impact on mortality in a single year.

16 tons, otoh, and you’re another day older & deeper in debt.

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Thanks for the article meep!

I found this chart interesting and was just thinking yesterday it would be nice to see cause of death broken out by age bands. I think you may have had this in an earlier article, but it saved me a search.

What is interesting is increase in deaths due to known comorbidities of COVID, such as heart disease and diabetes. I think “All other” includes non-COVID P&I deaths just given the winter spikes and I am not sure where else it would be included in the chart. Those all seem awfully suspicious like underreported COVID deaths. Heart disease, over a longer term, I could see increasing as the pandemic went on as people skipped the gym, gained weight, etc, but it seems like a noticeable increase in a few months could be more longer term damage caused by COVID showing up months later. Diabetes, possibly the same. All-other, if driven by P&I, what would have been the cause for an increase other than COVID? There is also the potential for the politics of the county coroner to come in to all of this, as noted in Whiskey’s article. The shorter term month to month increases in some of those other causes does coincide with COVID upticks.

I agree that it looks like most of the excess non-COVID mortality from the group is due to accidental death including suicides, but it seems there is evidence of a fair amount of undercounting of the COVID deaths, possibly a third of cases were missed.

Overall, maybe it doesn’t matter that much - ages 35-44 is still a smallish share of the overall cost of COVID, especially if the pattern is not repeated in the high age bands.

I would like to see the line trends broken at Feb 2020.

And thank you for rerailing this thread topic!

Yeah, I can start it at February, and do some other stuff, but not right now because the weather is giving me migraines. My head is a barometer.

Well, I’d like a “before” trend line and an “after” trend line, to see how COVID might have “affected” these mortality rates.
No rush, though. If you can have it done by 2112, that would be great. Could be permanent waves in the data. If you could make them into moving pictures that would be awesome.

RN

Oh, that’s an easy one

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Thanks!

a blog post is underway:

in case you were wondering ( @Marcie ) about where COVID fell on the ranking for the under age 15 groups:

at #12 for ages 5-14, with 49 deaths
at #12 for ages 1-4, with 19 deaths
at #13 for infant mortality (<1 year), at 35 deaths

there ya go

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