Yeah, the ideology we had was basically ‘God, guns, and football’ growing up.
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Having someone imply that you screwed something up before you even get out of bed.
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Increased workload interfering with cyber farting time.
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I’m on vacation and realized I somehow left my quart bag of liquid items at home. Had to go make some toiletry purchases.
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sick the dog on her
“The HR department will be processing payroll at 10:00 AM SHARP CDT on January 14th, 2023…”
No you won’t…no…you…won’t.
I grew up where this language was systemic. It wasn’t meant most of the time to be offensive and some of it was ignorance. And that continued on in my house, even though we figured we were a pretty open progressive household.
Until one day I had an epiphany that if some people we loved heard that language even accidentally, that they’d be hurt, I’d be horrified, and I’d be an asshole, no wiggle room on the last part. Dinner time that night, I laid down the law that this language was hard forbidden in our house, no exceptions. It’s been many years, no infractions and it wasn’t much of a change. We just stopped, and it went away.
So yeah, cringe in retrospect. My excuse is that ignorance is acceptable, stupidity isn’t.
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Not sure there was ever a time this wasn’t offensive
There might have been a time when people were too ignorant to realize that it was offensive. I first heard it in a movie … don’t think I ever heard it from someone who was using it “for real”.
But as a teenager it hadn’t remotely occurred to me that there was a problem with calling something “gay” in a pejorative way. Of course I’m not sure I even knew what the word “gay” actually meant at that point, which wouldn’t have been the case for “Jew”.
if you said that phrase to an actual jew back then, they would get offended.
i heard cheap jew comments in the 80’s and i found it offensive.
Oh I’m sure. It’s harder for me to imagine how it wouldn’t occur to someone that phrase is offensive.
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Im not entirely sure why “retarded” is offensive
Had a coworker who recently retired who used the word a lot. Didn’t seem to bother anyone
This is pretty close to my experience. I grew up with some unsavory expressions, and after hearing them for years I guess I normalized them. I also said ‘gay’ as a pejorative, or at least used the term in jest inappropriately.
There weren’t any Jews in my area growing up, or at least not that I knew of. To be honest, I’m not even sure it registered to 13yo me that ‘Jewing someone down’ was the same root word as ‘Jewish people.’ In hindsight it’s all really cringe.
So I’m not super proud I didn’t engage in some reflection on this when I was a child or teenager. I’ve come a long way since I then, and I’m trying hard to teach these things to my son so he is more aware.
You’re using someone’s condition as an insult.
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Well my high school was probably 60% white Catholic, 20% black Protestant 19% white Protestant, 0.7% Jewish, and 0.3% everything else, but I did at least know a single-digit number of Jewish kids and there was 1 Jewish teacher. Not exactly broad exposure, but slightly more than 0.
Okay maybe, but it isn’t really as offensive as using jew as a negative term or the n word
I was an adult before i realized what “jipped” referred to. No, i never saw it spelled out, and just never thought about it. The only thing i can say in my defense is that i never used it after about age 12, so i didn’t have a compelling reason to think about it. Still, i cringe to think that i used that word.
But I’m older than some of you. When i was a kid, “gay” meant happy. There was a kid in my tent at camp whose given name was “Gay”, and she used it. (She later changed it.)
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I think using a term both as a pejorative and a descriptor of a group of people can lead to less respect for those people.
To be able to successfully haggle is a valuable skill imo. To use a term that stereotypes a whole group of people as overly concerned with monetary gain is offensive.
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Much more succinctly put. JFG ftw.
True, but I liked your first sentence as it puts more color to the issue IMO, and is more general.
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Interesting, it seems I’m not unique in using some of these words or terms growing up, and not realizing what they mean or that they were/are offensive.
On one hand, it makes me feel a little bit better knowing that others used the words or terms without really thinking about the meaning. I guess we can’t really expect children to grasp the context, and once you learn a word you don’t always go back and think about it later. On the other hand, it sucks that these words and phrases were/are so pervasive.
I hope my son’s generation does much better here. But whenever I go back to rural Kansas… I’m less optimistic.