A brain worm's vision for public health

Jaspess was telling me that I guess during the pandemic people tried to do “covid parties” too, and uh, it didn’t end well for many of those participants :grimacing:

Rubella Babies will make a comeback. My sister worked in a group home for the deaf-blind in 2000. All the residents were 38 years old because they were the last cohort born before the vaccine.

I mean, if you ignore that measles and rubella (“German measles”) are completely preventable by getting a safe and effective vaccine then the parties could be a little more logical.

Absent vaccination it’s pretty much guaranteed that you WILL get the disease at some point. The party gives you some control over when. It’s an unpleasant thing you have to go through at some point.

Not unlike how a man might decide to get a vasectomy during “March Madness” so at least there’s something good to watch on TV, or age 45+ folks will time their colonoscopy to be during the slow time at work: time the unpleasantness to cause the least inconvenience.

When the boy down the street got chicken pox during a random week in the summer when we had nothing in particular going on, his mom asked my mom if my mom wanted to bring me over to “get it over with”. My mom was horrified… of course she isn’t going to intentionally get her child sick.

When I contracted chicken pox “naturally” the day before she was supposed to leave for her college reunion (which she was REALLY looking forward to) she was regretting her decision to not purposely expose me 9 months earlier.

I successfully dodged the chicken pox until the last month of seventh grade, when the three kids who sat closest to me got it. The last day I was out of school with it, there was a piece on the news that they now had a vaccine.

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Yeah, my comment was in reference to that. Breadmaker is in Canada where they still value vaccines, I am not.

local doc on the radio was lamenting it bc they need to grow the viruses chosen so they have enough ready to use in the vaccines. so even the delay impacts what they can do bc they will have a shorter growing season

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But of course RFK Jr & Trump will use that to their advantage “see, flu shots don’t work!”

Maybe it’s time for mRNA flu vaccines?

Present it as an opportunity for Elmo to get microchips in people, the way Bill Gates already has. They’ll surely approve it then.

I have spent most of this century studying infectious diseases, treatments, vaccines, and trends so I could educate the ignorant with regard to their risk and their options for prevention. I cannot comment on this topic.
Not many thing breaks through - this does.

All those involved with this broken human in charge, I would like to offer a very personal demonstration of the following technique.

https://www.hunter-ed.com/washington/studyGuide/Field-Dressing-a-Deer-Detailed-Instructions/20105003_146575/

Moderns was working on an mRNA combination flu and covid vaccine.

Pretty sure the regulators aren’t acting to approve it at the moment, though.

Outbreak is now growing in size.

Measles has a very high R ratio (highest for any virus on record) which is why you need very high vaccine coverage (over 97% usually) to stop it spreading.

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the 1972 NFL miami dolphins went undefeated. every year some team would reach like 10 wins and players from the 72 team would get asked about that new team’s chances.

mercury morris (recently deceased) was the most willing to be quoted. he would tell the reporter something like “don’t tell me when they’re in my town. don’t tell me when they’re on my street. tell me when they’re on my porch!”

so, for the people among the group who might be persuaded away from the bad decision to not vax, they will need bodies piled up on their porch.

the true believers will never be swayed and will have an excuse for why it happened to some others. these are the people who believe the Tree of Liverty being watered with the blood of school children bc of our 2A fetish is the only way. So…pile up the numbers for real or it’s a blip.

Im not rooting for the destruction this obviously avoidable mess will create. But how do you convince people who refuse to see it?

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Are we expecting vaccines to be outlawed here? Or is this just another way of privatizing something that is way more efficiently accomplished via public funding?

What’s the phrase in vogue today, “Privatization is trending”?

I am expecting that, at best, the feds will decline to facilitate the annual discussion about what flu and COVID variants are to be targeted with the annual vaccine updates, or delay that facilitation such that there will be insufficient flu vaccine this fall.

I think there’s a real chance that the feds will slow-walk the approval process for vaccines or vaccine variants… or possibly even decline to approve any new vaccines (unless, of course, big pharma throws lots of money at Trump).

I doubt vaccines will be outlawed, but I do see a likelihood of vaccine mandates being eroded.

Seems likely. Due to the number of vaccine truthers out there now, this will mean lack of herd immunity to many diseases that were eliminated here. We’re going to make polio, measles, rubella, and mumps great again.

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Someone must have told him letting an outbreak this large go uncontained was not a good idea…

It’s a “top priority” but that doesn’t mean he’s going to promote vaccination. He’s probably going to step up testing, encourage quarantine, and maybe do something about treatment.

Oh, and pray.

I’ll still be surprised if he promotes vaccination. The best he will do is shut up while others do.

He’s sent 2,000 doses of a multistage MMR vaccine to a state with a population of over 31 million. It’s being well handled.

Honestly that is 2,000 more than I would have guessed, but to your point I think there’s over 2,000,000 Texans eligible for a dose of MMR.

Amazing. The stupidity is on an entirely different level.