The lesson from Clinton is to run charismatic candidates. The lesson from Harris is to not run far left wing, especially after the supposedly moderate goes left after election
All at a federal level of course, state and local is very different
I think the bigger lesson from Harris is to understand that when the current Presidentâs approval rating is going down, you donât prop him up more.
If her messaging was something other* than âdo the same thing as Bidenâ, I wouldâve voted for her.
* and not run too âfar leftâ . . . to your point. However, it wasnât âleft sideâ talking points that threw me off.
Harris far left wing? She brought republican after republican on stage to endorse her. Non-MAGA republicans but very much republicans and non far left.
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Iâd agree not anything close to 50%, but I feel the Progressive wing is growing rapidly, especially among youth. Would be interested about any studies on it. They have local dominance in areas, now.
Not sure if Iâm misunderstanding? I think Iâve only heard Harris described as âfar left wingâ by the Fox News/OANN-sphere, where every Democrat is the most far-left Communist radical liberal Marxist ever run.
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Agreed.
Scary politics win the stupid vote. That and her vagina.
She also has a funny laugh and that became something people would list in their reasons why they didnât want her to be President.
I think Harrisâ only failure was following Biden. She was charismatic, decent, smart, young, etc. and had basically normal policy ideas.
She ran on Biden policy, who ran on Obama policy, which was also the same as both Clintons.
And they were all running against Trumpâs drink bleach and commit fraud, treason, and rape policy.
My best guess is that Trump won because he wasnât Obama. Then Biden won because he wasnât Trump. Then Trump won because he wasnât Biden. Basically, Americans are so polarized now that the sitting party doesnât stand a chance. The incumbency advantage has flipped now. And there is no possibly way anyone could be widely popular.
The fundamental challenge Harris would have needed to overcome in a normal presidential election is the biases voters might have regarding her plumbing and skin color.
She also, of course, had additional challenges with how she ended up on the ballot, and disgruntlement (and myopia) among some voters in some states with how the Dem leadership in general was failing to adopt/advance their prioritiesâŚand she was running against a political machine that was remarkably skilled in exploiting all of those biases and challenges.
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Obama already showed that you can overcome racial prejudice.
Canât say for the plumbing. Youâd think more women who would want to see a woman president in their lifetime than (re-)elect a male rapist, but who knows.
Certainly Iâd agree that starting with the Biden ballot was a massive strategic clusterfuck. Theoretically, it should have been evidence that actually we shouldnât elect old men, but obviously thatâs a level of rationality we lack.
Clinton and Harris rans as female candidates rather than candidates that happened to be female.
Obama ran as a candidate that happened to be black. He occasionally showed up as a black president, rather than a president that was black, and people reliably lost their minds over that. Treyvon Martin, for example.