Why was Trump elected?

SNES was the last console I ever bought :joy:

Just got done talking to my parents. My dad was pretty excited about the stock market up this week and thought Trump was going to bring down prices.

He was also not surprised harris lost since she is terrible… for reasons that mostly seem to be “not tough” like Trump.

So there are some thoughts from a pretty average voter in America.

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Inflation experienced around the world made something unusual happen. The non-partisans often vote in their financial interest, and the inflation crunch hit a lot of people hard.

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It’s an ATM alright, only it just prints money for the few. :slight_smile:

I wonder if we are already in an oligarchical tyranny already.

You say that like it’s a bad thing. As if Joe Biden wasn’t who we were as a country in 2020, Obama wasn’t who we were as a country in 2008, Dubya wasn’t who we were as a country in 2000…

So does a tariff work like the sales tax in most states or like the gas tax in most states?

You pay it either way but most people look at it like the sales tax is added to your total so you pay it, while the gas tax is part of the price so the company pays it.

There was an opinion piece in the NYTimes that a FB friend gifted which basically said, since the D’s didn’t get reprimanded in the 2022 midterms they didn’t feel the need to pivot and win back voters they lost so they continued with the same policies with little or no work to gain bipartisan support and win voters back. The author said both Clinton and Obama got hammered in their first midterms and made an effort to win back those voters.

It was an interesting read. Here is the link, though I don’t know if it will work for me copying it.

Except that really big one on immigration that Trump killed?

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it was not repeated enough times IMO.

the public broadly yells for bipartisan solutions. here was an example of one that was addressing a key issue and he killed it…for his own gain

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And they are stupid for thinking that. Can they be fixed? Probably not.

I mean, taxes on specific items are paid for only by those who purchase them, like Cigarette taxes.

I don’t know if this one was a big one, but the one thing that Democrats did recently that seemed really stupid and cynical is the push to cancel student loans. Without hesitating because that rewards people who don’t pay things back and punishes people who do. (Yes, there are counterexamples of people who try and can’t, but that’s beside the point.)

A lot of the points seem to be they can’t read the electorates’ sentiment on this/these issues. It’s like they need a refresher on Politics 101: How to get the vote.

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Inflation.

There has also been a lot of talk about how the Democrats lost a lot of the non-college educated working class. Gee, I wonder why?

So the cancelling student loans lost them a lot of working class votes and some college educated that either managed to get through college without racking up too much/any debt and/or paid it off. And in the end, how many people have actually benefited yet from the student loan forgiveness programs?

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That all sounds like background noise.

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I disagreed with student loan forgiveness from the start, but I supported it b/c it does help people and could potentially be branded as something good that the Democrats did, which will help them in future elections.

Needless to say, I really disagree with it now.

Going by exit polls these numbers did not change, so that talk is wrong.

Here is what NBC had:

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Appreciate the reply. I was looking at CNN’s exit polls here, which breaks things down by race and gender. If you look at white people and education, white educated has been increasing, but white uneducated hasn’t changed. The big shift is people of color have been embracing Trump more and more. It is true for both educated and unrducated. It happens that PoC are mostly uneducated.

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I think I need a refresher. What type of graphs are those?

ETA: I think I understand them now. The colouring was confusing me.