# What's up with the ao?

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166>\
**Category:** The Sandbox\
**Created:** [September 16, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166 "2020-09-16T20:00:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/62 "2020-09-21T22:34:37Z")

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oh, sure. That only makes sense for them, really.

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**Author:** ![colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/colonelsmoothie/32/136_2.png) [@colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/colonelsmoothie)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/63 "2020-09-21T23:10:48Z")

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So they’re gonna get rid of everything that made the AO fun pfffft

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**Author:** ![colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/colonelsmoothie/32/136_2.png) [@colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/colonelsmoothie)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/64 "2020-09-21T23:24:20Z")

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I saw attack ships off the shoulder of Political. I watched C-beams glitter out of anny’s eyes in the darkness of the reef. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain. Time to die.

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**Author:** ![meep](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/meep/32/44_2.png) [@meep](https://community.goactuary.com/u/meep)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/65 "2020-09-22T00:39:50Z")

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Their appeal is going to get more selective.

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**Author:** ![meep](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/meep/32/44_2.png) [@meep](https://community.goactuary.com/u/meep)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/66 "2020-09-22T00:48:26Z")

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To get serious for a moment, 3 of my fave AO people have died in recent years: Carol Marler, Brad Gile, and Jeremy Gold. That’s a bigger blow to me than the classic AO dissolving into the mist.

I’m grabbing what I can from them… but I know I will miss stuff. I’m not doing this in any systematic way. I’ve got my own priorities.

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**Author:** ![LususNaturae](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/fbc32d/32.png) [@LususNaturae](https://community.goactuary.com/u/LususNaturae)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/67 "2020-09-22T01:00:58Z")

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I think it’s also a safe bet that it will be useless for people taking exams.

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**Author:** ![colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/colonelsmoothie/32/136_2.png) [@colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/colonelsmoothie)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/68 "2020-09-22T01:13:04Z")

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I think it would be very sad to see JMO’s posts just vanish like that.

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**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/69 "2020-09-22T01:16:42Z")

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I really liked Carol and Brad. I didn’t really know Jeremy Gold. But I’ve lost a lot of relatives this year. I miss my MIL more than anyone on the ao. This has been a really shitty year.

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**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/70 "2020-09-22T01:19:53Z")

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I like to think I was sometimes helpful to exam takers, and I probably won’t be hanging out there. Multiply that by all the people like me and yeah, they will lose something. They may set up useful stuff, too, though. I suppose we’ll wait and see.

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**Author:** ![ao\_fan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/ao_fan/32/143_2.png) [@ao\_fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ao_fan)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/71 "2020-09-22T01:48:30Z")

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If DW Simpson wants the ao to have a future, I think this is a bad move. Weren’t there other actuarial forums before the ao that were professional? professional is boring. I think without the NAT component, people will get bored and leave, especially when they are done with exams.

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**Author:** ![colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/colonelsmoothie/32/136_2.png) [@colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/colonelsmoothie)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/72 "2020-09-22T02:01:35Z")

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exactly, the whole point of the rebel form was to rebel against that

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**Author:** ![dothemath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/dothemath/32/651_2.png) [@dothemath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dothemath)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/73 "2020-09-22T03:11:32Z")

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So what you’re saying is we need a _new_ rebel forum?

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**Author:** ![Serena](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/serena/32/10_2.png) [@Serena](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Serena)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/75 "2020-09-22T12:39:03Z")

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> [@SpaceLobster](#):
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> Well if they aren’t going to say it, I will. **Thanks Lucy** for like 15-20 years of volunteer moderation. I personally appreciate what you’ve done for the community, the work you’ve done, and the headaches you’ve endured.

I second this! Many thanks to the AO mods!

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/doctor_who/32/169_2.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/76 "2020-09-22T13:53:29Z")

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Thanks for sharing this.

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**Author:** ![SpaceLobster](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/spacelobster/32/38216_2.png) [@SpaceLobster](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SpaceLobster)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/77 "2020-09-22T14:01:33Z")

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> [@dothemath](#):
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> So what you’re saying is we need a _new_ rebel forum?

How AO rebels see themselves:

 ![](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/1X/72755687dc6750d5ba52ce57022a090a116388bb.jpeg)  
How AO rebels actually are, 20 years later:  
 ![](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/1X/338fd5e0f90ef2437722ab5d971f0136cbe967ba.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/alivelysedative/32/1337_2.png) [@ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ALivelySedative)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/78 "2020-09-22T14:14:35Z")

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Well dang. Took me a week to get bored enough to figure out where all you ppl went. If no NAT the AO will die. Someone keep me in the loop on where the new NAT ends up.

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**Author:** ![ViceFleeble](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vicefleeble/32/74484_2.png) [@ViceFleeble](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ViceFleeble)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/79 "2020-09-22T14:52:09Z")

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[Keeping you in the loop](https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/MgTNk-Oz07mFsukeg89_5eigPXc=/fit-in/1600x0/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/31/78/31781015-19f9-4a2f-ad31-2596d83b2bbd/file-20180711-27021-x73mii.jpg)

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**Author:** ![ao\_fan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/ao_fan/32/143_2.png) [@ao\_fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ao_fan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/82 "2020-09-23T15:57:05Z")

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since DW Simpson gave the ao mods no information until Lucy contacted them, but also claimed they are going to have stricter moderation, is their plan to find new moderators? or do they assume they get to keep the current moderator staff while giving them zero information?

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**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/83 "2020-09-23T16:07:32Z")

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I wonder if they even know who the ao mods were. I left a message that said “I’m one of the moderators of the ao”, and Patty and I know each other slightly, in the way you probably know a lot of recruiters.

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**Author:** ![ao\_fan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/ao_fan/32/143_2.png) [@ao\_fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ao_fan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/whats-up-with-the-ao/166/84 "2020-09-23T16:18:00Z")

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They probably don’t. They probably should have at least pm’d the ao moderators, which is a pretty easy thing to do, but they did not even bother with that.

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