# What is your COVID vaccine position?

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230>\
**Category:** Political Topics\
**Created:** [October 12, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230 "2021-10-12T17:27:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/141 "2021-10-13T12:35:51Z")

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How’s SouthWest doiing?

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/142 "2021-10-13T12:58:22Z")

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Having issues unrelated to a vaccine manatee?

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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/143 "2021-10-13T12:59:43Z")

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That’s what some say.

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/144 "2021-10-13T13:00:04Z")

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> **[Southwest pilots' union president blames airline for widespread...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/southwest-fllght-cancellations-pilots-association-president/)**
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> Some Southwest passengers have had to pick between paying for other transportation or staying put for days.

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/145 "2021-10-13T13:00:46Z")

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Makes for a good conspiracy theory for those against mandates.

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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/146 "2021-10-13T13:02:00Z")

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Right, because it’s illegal for the pilots to stage a sick-out. So I can’t figure out why the union president would go on record saying it’s not a sick-out.

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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/147 "2021-10-13T13:02:40Z")

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I guess we’ll never know.

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**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/148 "2021-10-13T13:07:18Z")

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> [@RoyWalley](#):
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> > [@Lucy](#):
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> > But that was nine months ago.
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> 9 months is the timeline you are comfortable with. Others require more time. Push them, as is currently being done, lengthens that time.

Naw, the timeline that I was comfortable with was a month. Given how prevalent the disease was when the vaccine rolled out, that was enough time to see all the problems we’ve ever seen with vaccines.

But I understand that others might be less familiar with vaccine history than I am, and might not find a month enough time. But people who are still anxious after 9 months aren’t going to feel more comfortable just because “more time has passed”.

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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/149 "2021-10-13T13:12:13Z")

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> [@Lucy](#):
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> But people who are still anxious after 9 months aren’t going to feel more comfortable just because “more time has passed”.

Now that all this pressure has been placed on getting the vaccine and the feeling that the freedom to make their own choice has gone away, probably not.

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/150 "2021-10-13T13:14:43Z")

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the airline’s pilot sick rate for this weekend was “right in line with what was occurring this summer.”

Sounds like something that could be verified.

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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/151 "2021-10-13T13:15:50Z")

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Must be weather, as reported.

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/152 "2021-10-13T13:24:39Z")

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Must be the vaccine mandate, as reported by people trying to get their viewers fired up against vaccine mandates.

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**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/153 "2021-10-13T13:34:13Z")

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Presumably, if they lost so many pilots that they had to cancel a thousand flights… they still have as many pilots out of commission? Is SW back on schedule? Or did they cancel the mandate and are allowing unvaxxed pilots to fly?

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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/154 "2021-10-13T13:38:16Z")

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They haven’t implemented the mandate yet. But if a group of pilots wanted to make a point, before the mandate goes into effect is the time to make it.

It was probably the weather.

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**Author:** ![JFG](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jfg/32/8801_2.png) [@JFG](https://community.goactuary.com/u/JFG)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/155 "2021-10-13T13:38:35Z")

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> [@RoyWalley](#):
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> I get the feeling that a lot of the people responding to this thread thinks that anything forced is bad.

So if someone doesn’t want to pay child support, it’s bad to enforce them to? Or are there things responsible adults should do, but if they want to be negligent pieces of garbage, it’s reasonable to coerce them (e.g. garnish wages, block driver’s license renewal) to meet their responsibility?

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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/156 "2021-10-13T13:41:07Z")

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Make sure to stretch first.

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**Author:** ![JFG](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jfg/32/8801_2.png) [@JFG](https://community.goactuary.com/u/JFG)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/157 "2021-10-13T13:45:23Z")

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> [@Lucy](#):
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> You are giving me third-hand commentary, heck, not even anecdote, just speculation, about vaccine-hesitant strangers.

Lots of speculation, lack of definition, cherrypicked responses, “interesting”, and “probably”, and obtuseness. Seems like a troll farm.

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**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/158 "2021-10-13T13:46:26Z")

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So did SW get the message? Are they going to change anything because of this?

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**Author:** ![RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@RoyWalley](https://community.goactuary.com/u/RoyWalley)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/159 "2021-10-13T13:47:05Z")

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I doubt SouthWest can do anything about the weather.

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/what-is-your-covid-vaccine-position/4230/160 "2021-10-13T13:47:45Z")

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> [@RoyWalley](#):
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> They haven’t implemented the mandate yet. But if a group of pilots wanted to make a point, before the mandate goes into effect is the time to make it.

No one is making that point other than right wingers.

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