What Have We Learned Since 2020?

Our healthcare system will not recover from COVID for well over a decade. A lot of this is due to the focus on maximizing profits, even during a pandemic.

Medical treatment in the next few years will be worse than pre-COVID just due to the exodus of medical personnel from hospitals.

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At least your guy didn’t just wait to see what their neighbor did and copy that (unless he/she did)

At a state level? I don’t think that’s true

I don’t think many states have functional legislatures right now, no.

Based on what? NJ’s is fine. Which states have defunct legislatures?

Ideally, it would be done by neither.

But at least with the legislature there is (in theory, maybe not in our state) the opportunity for discussion & debate, not diktat.

I live in a state with and R trifecta. They seem to get things done.

In fact, two-thirds of states have trifectas.

The state that ‘legalized’ marijuana in November 2020 and still doesn’t have legalized marijuana in January 2022?

I mean, sure, compared to other states, it’s not a complete cluster****, but I wouldn’t call it functional.

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Sure, if you consider ‘banning teaching of critical race theory’ ‘getting something done’.

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Sure, it’s like if they find an effective leukemia treatment in California, it would be crazy to think it would work in IL. They don’t even have a common border. I mean, they have totally different football teams.

Srsly, I don’t care if you are down on your Guv. But there’s no apparent reason why using data from another state is bad.

And the over arching point is: sometimes you have to do things that are to the benefit of someone other than yourself. Getting a vaccine and wearing a mask is a hardship only if you decide to make it one. It’s in your head. It’s a mole hill.stop acting like it’s some sort of Rocky Mountain.

If it’s a mole hill, why is it so important to you?

It wasn’t a leukemia cure. He was using other states’ hospitalization data to justify keeping his unilateral mask mandate in place, at the same time completely ignoring that all of the surrounding states do not have mask mandates but have similar or better covid outcomes. Mask mandates have not changed the course of the pandemic anywhere.

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Because I’d like to put this health problem in the rear view mirror.

And the mole hill is “wearing a mask”. But it’s somehow morphed into some sort of symbolic emblem of raging against the government. I Have no idea why it became such a volatile issue, but it has. I’m just trying to understand why that happened here.

In VA’s case, they just seem to be uninformed wrt to the hospital capacities in their specific region. SV’s post may help them get a clearer picture of the situation.

In your case, you seem to deny that masks have worked anywhere, so what’s the deal? That too, is not accurate. It is true that masks, when worn, and if the masks themselves are “good”, then the transmission rates are greatly reduced. Not eliminated, but greatly reduced. Now there are not RCT studies, since we are dealing with populations, not individuals. It’s hard to get randomized control groups of similar populations. We all know this. So the traditional gold standard for efficacy is unavailable.

Good paper here on masks and studies

That’s a strange example, it passed on a ballot measure, not through the legislature. And something simply failing to pass the legislature doesn’t imply it’s defunct…

Nor does a lag between a ballot measure and actually implementing a regulatory framework.

I think you have the wrong idea about rural population… There is no local Walmart, or any local grocery store. There is also no local Applebees, or any local restaurants. We have a gas station and a church. So spread is a lot less here since you mostly see people as you drive past them and give them a wave. Our local hospital is running pretty good. Go 30 minutes into the “cities” and their hospital is full. When that hospital is filling up. people are not transferred to the closest hospital (the one in the middle of nowhere) but the closest “big” hospital that is over one hour away

The draft is the most unconscionable action the US Government has ever taken IMO.

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Is there a situation in which you’d be in favor of the draft? What if Japan had occupied HI?

Also the Japanese-American internment camps seems like an obvious more unconscionable action.

Forcing citizens to fight in a war and kill other human beings? Hell no.

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We were attacked. Should we all be pacifists till we’ve run out of states?