Except for my friend who was in pre-med and the requirement was one year of math. When he tried explaining that he was exempt since he already had pre-calc and calc credit from his APs they made him take calc1 and calc2 instead
Seems to imply they were 60% at one time.
You and 99% of the group.
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The college i initially started at did not guve AP credit.
It did allow to start in Calc II if you had AP Calc, and similar.
Exactly, itās all so inauthentic. They deliberately keep the supply crazy low while filling the seats based on nepotism.
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Pre med at uni for my kid said āWe donāt care if you got a 5, you are taking our chemistryā
When I SATād, I got a 600 Verbal and 780 math.
My mom was like, ājesus that difference is ridiculous. You should practice these word lists and retake the test.ā So I sat and studied vocab.
Then I got a 600 verbal and 800 math.
Which is to say, the difference at that point is just a dumb mistake. Not actual skills.
The math section of the SAT only really helps to separate the 95th (and above) percentile from the rest. It says nothing really about the top 5% and how good their math skills are.
For that, you need to take the Math GRE test.
Nowā¦that test is hard.
And it will absolutely differentiate the āsuperiorā from the āaverageā math nerds.
We had different standard tests than the American SATās in Ontario: separate math and english tests in the final year of high school were written by all students. The math test was probably a bit like the GRE math test.
Surprisingly, I scored in the top 1% and 5% respectively on the two tests so I questioned their validity as there were others in my class that had much better english skills but worse results.
I think you mean SAT. The GRE math is taken by those that want to go graduate school and do a PhD in math. A lot math graduate programs donāt require it as even though it has questions from abstact algebra, real analysis and number theory the questions arenāt like those you find on the Putnam. You have to know calculus and linear algebra at a level above what you needed on the old Part 1 to do well,
Thanks: I didnāt know what the Math GRE was.
The Putnam Math Competition is one I am aware of and that is in a much higher league. My (long deceased) second year analysis prof won the initial Putnam in 1938 as part of the University of Toronto team.
Weāre all perfect in our own way.
Today the top positions generally go to Chinese Students from MIT,
They would have also been dominating the USAMO stuff before enrolling at MIT. MIT has a program to train great high schoolers, right? Even the lecturers at MIT are former great performers.
I think most of the top scores come from Chinese nationals.
Iām too lazy to check more than the top 5, but the last time there was more than 1 Chinese national who was a Putnam Fellow was 2017. I also saw someone claim that Mingyang Deng is the only Chinese national in his class at MIT, donāt know if that is true or not.
2022:
- Mingyang Deng (PRC)
- Papon Lapote (Thailand)
- Brian Liu (USA)
- Luke Robitaille (USA)
- Daniel Zhu (USA)
2021:
- Andrew Gu (USA)
- Michael Ren (USA)
- Edward Wan (USA)
- Shengtong Zhang (PRC)
- Daniel Zhu (USA)
2020: No official results b/c COVID
2019:
- Ashwin Sah (USA)
- Kevin Sun (Canada)
- Yuan Yao (USA)
- Shengtong Zhang (PRC)
- Daniel Zhu (USA)
2018:
- Dongryul Kim (Korea)
- Shyam Narayanan (USA)
- David Stoner (USA)
- Yuan Yao (USA)
- Shengtong Zhang (PRC)
2017:
- Omer Cerrahoglu (Romania)
- Jiyang Gao (PRC)
- Junyao Peng (USA)
- Ashwin Sah (USA)
- David Stoner (USA)
- Yunkun Zhao (PRC)
That is 19 distinct people, 3 of whom are Chinese nationals.
THE Luke Robitaille???
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The one and only. Turns out you change a name from Luc to Luke and all your hockey skills turn into math.
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And 12 of whom are US nationals, if Iām reading that correctly.
glad to see he went back and finished his education. he likely left home to pursue the career on ice at age 10, so it took a while for him to get to MIT
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I think you missed the red font.