# Thread where actuaries diagnosis medical issues

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [December 17, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794 "2021-12-17T22:50:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chalky](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/chalky/32/12885_2.png) [@Chalky](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Chalky)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/84 "2022-02-05T02:10:27Z")

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> [@Serena](#):
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> My BP has always been left of the bell curve. 100/60 is normal for me and sometimes it’s enough lower than that to make them take it again and/or ask “you ok?”

show off. What’s your BMI? Like 18 or something?

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**Author:** ![Chalky](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/chalky/32/12885_2.png) [@Chalky](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Chalky)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/85 "2022-02-05T02:20:18Z")

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> [@SpaceLobster](#):
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> Roughly every year or so, I’m bone tired for about three days. Exhausted, can’t stay awake. Sleeping throughout the day, etc.
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> Comes on randomly, goes away the same. Doesn’t seem correlated to stress, and I’m not depressed.
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> Doctors done tests, nothing found.
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> Diagnosis?

sounds like a hangover. Do you often drink alcohol in excess of normal? Please submit your age, height and weight.

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**Author:** ![Chalky](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/chalky/32/12885_2.png) [@Chalky](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Chalky)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/86 "2022-02-05T02:22:50Z")

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> [@BruteForce](#):
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> I want to contribute! For like a year now (rough estimate) my shoulder has been hurting. Like the tendon (I’m not a doctor, so I’m just guessing here) that I can push on the outside of my shoulder. It hurts when I do pushups (or similar movements). It’s not like a sore muscle pain, it’s kind of like a sharp something’s wrong pain. I maybe should go to the doctor for that…
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> Three days ago my wrist started hurting. It’s on the outside (opposite side of my thumb) right between that round bone that pops up and my hand. I’m assuming my body is going downhill due to sitting at a desk all day.

how often do you get drunk and get into bar fights? Is your BMI normal?

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**Author:** ![Serena](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/serena/32/10_2.png) [@Serena](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Serena)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/87 "2022-02-05T02:27:22Z")

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I don’t know what good BMI is 😂  
I’m not in great shape. Definitely need to exercise more and lose the Covid 19 😬

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**Author:** ![Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vorian_atreides/32/65623_2.png) [@Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Vorian_Atreides)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/88 "2022-02-05T03:06:18Z")

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> [@Chalky](#):
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> 1. how often do you get drunk and get into bar fights?
> 2. Is your BMI normal?

Enumerated for easier response:

1. He tries to get into one about every other scene playing D&D . . . but the NPC either ignore him or laugh hard.

2. There is nothing normal about BruteFarce.

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/89 "2022-02-19T16:43:24Z")

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I’m going to mention possibly unrelated issues:

Sometime in November/December, I got a pain in my left side/lower left abdomen when I was throwing a frisbee. I thought I probably tweaked an oblique muscle and rested it for a week or so. It was feeling better after rest.

The week before Christmas I was awakened around 6am with horrible abdominal discomfort, followed by violent diarrhea and vomiting for about 3 hours. I also had chills and cold sweats, but no fever. It was bad enough that I considered going to the ER. It completely disappeared after 3 hours (with no medication), and I felt fine the rest of the day.

Had 2 completely normal days, then on day 4 I also had violent diarrhea accompanied by chills and cold sweats. No vomiting this time, but I didn’t feel well for most of that day.

I was overdue for a colonoscopy anyway so I went to the GI doc. Had a colonoscopy and an endoscopy, and got a clean bill of health. GI doc doesn’t think my side/abdominal pain is GI related. I then went and got a full physical with lots of lab work, and I got normal numbers on all tests. Both docs suspected food poisoning, but I think that’s pretty unlikely as the wife and I ate the same meals the day prior. I also never experienced the kind of abdominal pain/discomfort in the times I believe I had food poisoning before. It didn’t feel like the cramping you can sometimes get with diarrhea.

My lower left abdomen is still experiencing occasional discomfort. I have not had a recurrence of the other symptoms though.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/90 "2022-02-19T18:43:51Z")

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Some of your symptoms are similar to gall stones.

[red]Just to be safe, you should schedule a cholecystectomy.[/red]

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/91 "2022-02-19T19:02:43Z")

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My father had his gallbladder out when he was around my age. I did mention this to both docs. However, gallbladder is right side rather than left.

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**Author:** ![JFG](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jfg/32/8801_2.png) [@JFG](https://community.goactuary.com/u/JFG)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/92 "2022-02-19T19:07:10Z")

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Maybe your organs are backwards.

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**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/93 "2022-02-19T19:09:07Z")

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It could be [referred pain](https://www.healthline.com/health/pain-relief/referred-pain). 🤷‍♀️

I know someone who had her gall bladder removed whose initial symptom was back pain (I think that’s more common than left side pain, but what do I know?)

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**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/94 "2022-02-19T19:09:57Z")

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> [@JFG](#):
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> Maybe your organs are backwards

That probably would have shown up in one of the scopes, right?

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/95 "2022-02-19T19:55:59Z")

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One detail I left out: of course any time you are talking pains in your abdomen or chest and are over 40, they want to rule out heart attack. I did have an EKG too which was normal.

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**Author:** ![Breadmaker](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/breadmaker/32/83065_2.png) [@Breadmaker](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Breadmaker)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/96 "2022-02-19T20:13:13Z")

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What if the doctor was holding the scan backwards???

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**Author:** ![NerdAlert](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/nerdalert/32/683_2.png) [@NerdAlert](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NerdAlert)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/97 "2022-02-19T20:46:25Z")

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For whatever it’s worth, my gallstone attack pain was not on the right side of my body, it radiated through me and often felt more like stomach pain than how I read it should feel.

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/98 "2022-02-19T20:49:20Z")

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I did get a “liver function panel” and a CBC, which I gather can sometimes point to any issues with the gallbladder. Both were normal.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/99 "2022-02-19T21:59:42Z")

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> [@Breadmaker](#):
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> What if the doctor was holding the scan backwards???

Pretty sure you are joking, but a relative of my ex’s was a dental hygienist and the dentist she worked for pulled the wrong tooth from a patient because a different hygienist had put the patient’s x-ray on the light-thing backwards.

Dentist was sued for malpractice, ex’s relative had to testify even though she wasn’t personally involved, it was a big mess. Patient got a pile of money but I don’t recall how much. Weird stuff like that happens.

When hubby went in for back surgery the surgeon literally signed his back and wrote right on hubby’s skin what they were doing. I presume to prevent some sort of horrendous mix-up.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/100 "2022-02-19T22:03:14Z")

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> [@twig93](#):
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> When hubby went in for back surgery the surgeon literally signed his back and wrote right on hubby’s skin what they were doing. I presume to prevent some sort of horrendous mix-up.

I’ve seen that quite a bit\* on netflix-like documentaries where the surgeon signs someone’s leg to indicate “this is the one we’re sawing off”.

\*i.e., more than once…well, maybe just once, but it was memorable, so it seemed like more.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/101 "2022-02-19T22:06:00Z")

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I think also to prevent a different doctor from walking into the OR, failing to notice it wasn’t his patient / he (or the patient) is in the wrong OR, and performing an appendectomy or a bowel resection instead.

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**Author:** ![tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/u/tommie.frazier)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/102 "2022-02-19T22:16:50Z")

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Is there any history if liver disfunction on the family? In my family, we have Gilbert’s syndrome which means our balky liver does not clear all the bilirubin sometimes. It is considered a “benign” condition. But when it is high (fatigue/diet/whatever I can’t figure out) headaches, chills, and abrupt and lousy diarrhea can occur.

So has bilirubin ever been high? If they test your blood when you feel great, they might not catch the abnormally high bilirubin count.

I think unrelated to the lower ab pain.

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**Author:** ![NerdAlert](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/nerdalert/32/683_2.png) [@NerdAlert](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NerdAlert)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/thread-where-actuaries-diagnosis-medical-issues/4794/103 "2022-02-19T23:01:12Z")

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> [@tommie.frazier](#):
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> lousy diarrhea

Is there any other kind?

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