Yeah things have gotten kinda crazy. When I was applying people considered Vandy a safety school if you didn’t get into your top choice private school because the acceptance rate used to be in the 30%s which was doable if you are a decent student. But then if you got in nobody actually decided to go because our state school always gave better financial aid.
I used to teach at one of the “best” state schools in the country. I was shocked at how badly the undergraduates were treated, and met several seniors who had never taken a reasonable sized course from a full professor. The research quality of the school was vastly better than Vanderbilt, and I suspect that the “ranking” reflected that, but that doesn’t trickle down to the typical student.
Personally, I think if the goal is to learn rather than get a piece of paper, then a small liberal arts college with faculty selected on the basis of teaching skill does much better than a university at which you might as well be streaming lessons from MIT.
On Feb. 8, Vanderbilt announced all students from families making $150,000 or less per year will receive full tuition scholarships as part of an expansion to [Opportunity Vanderbilt(Opportunity Vanderbilt | Undergraduate Admissions | Vanderbilt University), its no-loan financial aid program.
I suppose people posting here all live in families with incomes over $150,000. Most Americans don’t. For them, Vanderbilt tuition shouldn’t be an issue.
$150k/year household income I assume?
Seems a bit lopsided given how much the sticker price actually is ($100k/year).
Should be higher than $150k/year then.
Every time a school posts something like this it’s just a virtue signaling gimmick. They need to tell us how many poor people they actually admit and decline and the family wealth distribution of their student body. A policy like this does no good if they admit a handful of poors and parade the around in brochures. “Look at the poor people were saving! Here’s our poor person!” Give me a break
Set foot on campus and you’ll find almost all the students are affluent.
We have those over here.
I still remember when a Chinese international student rocked up to the school in his new Porsche.
I personally don’t care all that much (do whatever you want with your money really) but the natives were appalled at the “flash the cash” attitude.
The policy is meaningless in the sense that almost everyone who goes to the school is at least upper middle class who can afford it, and then there’s a handful of poor people admitted so the schools can pretend that they give out aid.
I wonder how much professors influence how much kids learn. A great teacher can make a difference, but a good teacher vs a not-so-good teacher didn’t seem to have much of an impact for my personal learning. You read the textbook, do the homework, take the exams, what the professor actually says in class didn’t seem to matter that much to me. Of course, everyone’s experience is different.
My son just got offered a job at https://canadaintherough.com/ as a videographer. A very exciting opportunity since he’s such an outdoorsman. And they reached out to him, having seen his other work online.
Unfortunately it’s not career-level money and he’s returning to school in september so it’s looking like a fantastic opportunity that he’s going to have to turn down :(.
I thought he was calling it quits on the schooling
Is there anyway for him to take a semester off for the filming? Seems like a very unique opportunity that warrants putting his education on hold for
He still thinking about firefighting?
Yep, he’s back in school in September for firefighting for a year, then maybe a job.
I suggested that he see if he can defer his schooling for a term, then work through hunting season September-December. I suspect that won’t work though since it’s only a September-May course.
It really is a once in a lifetime opportunity, but otoh, another year off school with no movement towards a career isn’t good.
I dunno, maybe I’ll talk to my spouse about it, maybe we should suggest he do it for a year, then do school again in sep 2025. Thing is, he’s 27, so he’s got to get moving at some point.
I see now
Yeah. Firefighting school is probably the way to go
It’s time for a career
Videography will generally always be there.
sent deposit in for f24 semester for my kid. yay kid.
He doesn’t have any interest in video production. He’s a big hunter, and canada in the rough is really the biggest brand name in canadian hunting. he’d be travelling around with a crew across canada, hunting and filming. 100% about the experience, and not really about the mechanics of the job.
I’ve suggested he try and work out something where he does it for four months, then goes to school in January. I mean, he needs to get his ass back to school and get a job, but this is a once in a lifetime experience so if he can pull it off, I’d like to see him do it. A four month deferral is a worthwhile tradeoff.
Geez, how old is that??
Yeah, the tuition has gone up significantly, but the adjunct pay is spot on.
I would point out that adjunct faculty isn’t necessarily one with a PhD.
Most adjuncts I know (even at a University) have only a master’s degree.
Also how does $3k per course somehow turn into 3 PhDs doing full-time tutoring for only $9k per semester?