# The Attempted Coup of the United States of America **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [December 10, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474 "2020-12-10T00:09:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1051 "2023-10-25T16:01:17Z")
Ok okies was a bad example ---
**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1052 "2023-10-25T16:02:18Z")
> [@now\_samantha](#): > > It’s a name that was imposed upon Pakistani people by the British, and used by said Brits in a dismissive, condescending fashion. People and groups of people get to choose their own names. You literally shortened British to Brits in order to complain about Pakistanis being shortened to Pakis ---
**Author:** ![now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/now_samantha/32/24815_2.png) [@now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/u/now_samantha)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1053 "2023-10-25T16:10:54Z")
Limeys suck. ---
**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1054 "2023-10-25T16:16:52Z")
Ironically limes aren’t very good at preventing scurvy (whereas lemons are) so they ended up with that nickname because of shoddy science. > **[Cautionary Tales – South Pole Race: When Limeys get scurvy](https://timharford.com/2022/08/cautionary-tales-south-pole-race-3/)** > > Polar exploration is dangerous… but trudging hundreds of miles in subzero temperatures isn’t made any easier if you’re suffering from scurvy. The deadly vitamin deficiency destroy… ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1055 "2023-10-25T16:22:33Z")
> [@knoath](#): > > You literally shortened British to Brits in order to complain about Pakistanis being shortened to Pakis I’m inclined to lean toward @now_samantha in not using it anymore given only this discussion, but I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![NumericalNeuroticism](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/numericalneuroticism/32/464_2.png) [@NumericalNeuroticism](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NumericalNeuroticism)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1056 "2023-10-25T17:24:16Z")
It’s all about context and history, some shortenings are ok and some aren’t. Where do you rate using the first three letters for “Japanese person”? ---
**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1057 "2023-10-25T17:42:46Z")
That’s my point though. I don’t see it as inherently racist but if you add context and history it can become racist. The term Pakis is especially inappropriate to people from India because you are being identified by a contraction of your archenemy (at the time). If it was only ever used to describe people from Pakistan, I don’t see how it would be any more insulting than calling Serbians Serbs, Croatians Croats or even shortening other peoples to Afghanis, Kazakhs, Uzbeks etc ---
**Author:** ![The\_Polymath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_polymath/32/83081_2.png) [@The\_Polymath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_Polymath)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1058 "2023-10-25T18:54:24Z")
“Paki” is definitely a slur over here in the UK ---
**Author:** ![vjvj](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vjvj/32/406_2.png) [@vjvj](https://community.goactuary.com/u/vjvj)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1059 "2023-10-25T18:58:10Z")
![image](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/e/4e9ca6371c5b122e1d71426fb8b35aca52c45531.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1060 "2023-10-25T18:59:07Z")
I would default to “If Pakistani people don’t like it and at least some Brits concede it as a slur, it’s a slur.” Regardless of whether the person’s Pakistani or Indian. Anyway back to the coup. 4 defected lawyers now? I saw Trump tried to delay his trial because somebody got COVID, while they sat unmasked in court. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1061 "2023-10-25T19:33:03Z")
> [@knoath](#): > > Canucks. Canuck can be a pejorative depending on the context. For example, if it is preceded by a word like f&&&ing. Paki, in contrast, is always a slur. ---
**Author:** ![joejam](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@joejam](https://community.goactuary.com/u/joejam)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1062 "2023-10-25T19:37:13Z")
> [@Cooke](#): > > if it is preceded by a word like Vancouver IFYP for all Leafs fans ---
**Author:** ![The\_Polymath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_polymath/32/83081_2.png) [@The\_Polymath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_Polymath)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1063 "2023-10-25T19:41:32Z")
I struggle to think of an occasion when “canuck” can be used as an insult/pejorative term. “Newfie” comes to mind (people from Newfoundland) Lots of jokes about them in HS. But thats it really. This was back in the 90s so things may have changed. ---
**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1064 "2023-10-25T19:55:56Z")
Same. I have honestly never heard the term Paki before and just thought it was convenient. Given this new knowledge, I’ll continue not saying it. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1065 "2023-10-25T19:57:02Z")
> [@The\_Polymath](#): > > I struggle to think of an occasion when “canuck” can be used as an insult/pejorative term. It’s all about context. It’s like Yank, which can sometimes be used as a pejorative term for Americans. ---
**Author:** ![jraven](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jraven/32/229_2.png) [@jraven](https://community.goactuary.com/u/jraven)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1066 "2023-10-25T20:29:06Z")
My experience was that if someone wanted to use “Yank” pejoratively they’d just use “septic” instead. But that might just be the class of folks I associated with… ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1067 "2023-10-25T22:28:37Z")
> [@knoath](#): > > I don’t see it as inherently racist It’s racist because it has a history of being used in a racist way in a way that “Brit” and “Canuck” do not. I mean, the n-word isn’t _inherently_ racist… it’s derived from the Latin word for “black”. It’s racist because it has a history of being used in a racist way. In the year 1400 it probably wasn’t racist. (I’m not exactly sure when it started to be used in a racist way, but I _think_ 1400 probably predates such usage.) ---
**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1068 "2023-10-25T22:40:34Z")
I never said it wasn’t used as a racist term. For someone who was not aware of racist terms in England, it would seem to be a legitimate descriptor, given that people from Afghanistan are referred to as Afghanis, people from Kazakhstan Kazakhs, Uzbekistan Uzbeks etc. George W Bush referred to the people of Pakistan with that term, before he was quietly corrected. It’s not a term I would use because when we played them in cricket it was always the Pakistanis. According to Wikipedia, the name Pakistan means “land of the Paks”, so it’s not a stretch to use the word with an “i” added without knowing the historical context of racism in England. That’s why I said it’s not inherently racist, just as the swastika is not inherently fascist, having been used for milennia before it was appropriated by the Nazis. I’ve since found out that Canuck used to be a slur, which surprised me. ---
**Author:** ![vjvj](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vjvj/32/406_2.png) [@vjvj](https://community.goactuary.com/u/vjvj)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1069 "2023-10-25T22:41:41Z")
> [@Cooke](#): > > It’s like Yank, which can sometimes be used as a pejorative term for Americans. I always thought this was a funny term, as, at least around those I’ve known, it is almost never used by Americans (other than when referring to baseball). It’s the term that nobody outside the country realizes we don’t call ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/1070 "2023-10-25T22:51:13Z")
> [@knoath](#): > > I’ve since found out that Canuck used to be a slur, which surprised me. Have you seen their hockey team play? Of course its a slur. jeez. Sooory [Previous page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474.md?page=51) [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474.md?page=53)