# The Attempted Coup of the United States of America **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [December 10, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474 "2020-12-10T00:09:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/883 "2021-02-09T12:45:21Z")
if you incite the lemmings on the front, those in the back will follow. so pretty lame excuse plus all the claims of fraud leading up to the event plus all the evidence that this was planned and not just spur of the moment. all he had to do was give it the go. organic food nut job probably truly believed they would be pardoned ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/884 "2021-02-09T15:45:36Z")
Yep. The R strategy is to pretend that the only thing Trump did was to speak at the rally, and then he did use 15 seconds of his hour long rant to say “peaceful”. I recall seeing cell phone video from the back of the crowd (can’t find it today, maybe it’s been taken down?). I could hear Trump on the video. The scarier stuff was the general tenor of the crowd. They were there for some sort of big stuff, just weren’t organized yet on what it would be. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/885 "2021-02-09T15:47:28Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > They were there for some sort of big stuff, just weren’t organized yet on what it would be. Well, some of them were. The rest were just a mob. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/886 "2021-02-09T15:54:33Z")
> [@twig93](#): > > Blame it on the technology! 🤣 I too enjoy a good “blame the IT department” excuse ---
**Author:** ![Dara](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/dara/32/422_2.png) [@Dara](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Dara)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/887 "2021-02-09T16:29:27Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > I recall seeing cell phone video from the back of the crowd (can’t find it today, maybe it’s been taken down?). I could hear Trump on the video. Yeah, I watched that too. Lots of echo, but they understood enough to chant “Storm the Capitol!” in the right spots. ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/888 "2021-02-09T16:45:46Z")
I’m talking about the people I saw on the video who were toward the back of the crowd listening to Trump. I understand there were others who were organized. ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/889 "2021-02-09T16:46:12Z")
Yep ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Papagiorgio](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/nick_papagiorgio/32/451_2.png) [@Nick\_Papagiorgio](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Nick_Papagiorgio)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/890 "2021-02-09T17:32:55Z")
Let’s be frank though. An impeachment is a political process. There are no real legal ramifications outside of disqualification for running for office again. In that case there are 2 possibilities here for Trump’s blame in this event. 1. He knew exactly what he was doing and was hoping something like that would happen in which case he should never be allowed to run for national office again. 2. He is too stupid to know what he was doing would cause what happened in which case he should never be allowed to run for national office again. I have read the transcript of the speech he gave that day. There is absolutely no refuting he whipped that crowd into a frenzy before they stormed the Capitol so the 2 options above are the only possibility for his intentions regarding the event IMO. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/891 "2021-02-09T18:41:59Z")
> [@Nick\_Papagiorgio](#): > > There is absolutely no refuting he whipped that crowd into a frenzy before they stormed the Capitol so the 2 options above are the only possibility for his intentions regarding the event IMO. But crucially option 3 is our supporters kind of wanted the storming of the capitol to happen, and if they didn’t they probably struggle to remember what happened a week ago anyway I mean what did I even eat for breakfast today. Wait we’re trying to remove a guy from office who already left that’s unconstitutional! ---
**Author:** ![SredniVashtar](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/srednivashtar/32/2894_2.png) [@SredniVashtar](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SredniVashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/892 "2021-02-09T19:43:46Z")
Yeah, it’s a dumb question. If the tables were turned, and AOC was giving a rousing speech centered around a big lie to the Anti-fa/BLM just before they stormed the capitol, nobody would suggest she’s really not responsible. ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Papagiorgio](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/nick_papagiorgio/32/451_2.png) [@Nick\_Papagiorgio](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Nick_Papagiorgio)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/893 "2021-02-09T20:15:57Z")
But she’s a communist, it’s different right? ---
**Author:** ![soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/soyleche/32/42_2.png) [@soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/u/soyleche)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/894 "2021-02-09T20:19:50Z")
Left = Thugs. Right = Patriots. ---
**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/895 "2021-02-10T16:08:55Z")
Fulton County GA is apparently opening a criminal investigation on Trump regarding his attempt to pressure the GA SoS to find enough votes to overturn the election. [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/10/us/politics/trump-georgia-investigation.html#click=https://t.co/DxOc9VZjbU](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/10/us/politics/trump-georgia-investigation.html#click=https://t.co/DxOc9VZjbU) ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/896 "2021-02-10T16:10:54Z")
> [@ArthurItas](#): > > opening a criminal investigation on Trump regarding his attempt to pressure the GA SoS to find enough votes to overturn the election. Glad to hear it. It’s amazing how many things Trump has done that are like well of course if a regular person did it they’d go to prison but it’s Trump ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/897 "2021-02-10T16:56:40Z")
This is also an impeachable offense. I’m surprised that Democrats didn’t have a whole grocery list of impeachable offenses from the past four years, and bring them all up, to be voted on one at a time. There is probably a web site with them all… From A to Z, some of these are just “He’s a shitty person,” but some could easily be impeachable: > **[The A to Z of Things Trump Could and Should Have Been Impeached For](https://theintercept.com/2019/12/19/a-z-trump-impeachment/)** > > Are we expected to believe that House Democrats really think Trump has only committed two impeachable offenses? ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/898 "2021-02-10T16:58:29Z")
I’m glad it’s Georgia that’s going to try him for a criminal offense. If it was Massachusetts or California it wouldn’t be the same at all. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/899 "2021-02-10T17:01:02Z")
> [@dr\_t\_non-fan](#): > > I’m surprised that Democrats didn’t have a whole grocery list of impeachable offenses from the past four years, and bring them all up, to be voted on one at a time. I think the political logic is it’s harder for Rs to defend voting to acquit when it’s just related to the insurrection. If there were 10 charges then they’d deflect every question with “yeah but they just hate Trump, look at this charge it’s so flimsy”. ---
**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/900 "2021-02-12T14:33:42Z")
Justice Department says an Oathkeeper was waiting for instruction from Trump before committing to an attack on the Capitol. Said oathkeeper believed that she had received said instruction. > **[Justice Department says an Oath Keepers leader waited for Trump’s direction...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/11/politics/oath-keeper-justice-trump-capitol/index.html)** > > The Justice Department is now making clear that a leader among the Oath Keepers paramilitary group – who planned and led others in the US Capitol siege to attempt to stop the Biden presidency – believed she was responding to the call from... ---
**Author:** ![funkingded](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/funkingded/32/83398_2.png) [@funkingded](https://community.goactuary.com/u/funkingded)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/901 "2021-02-12T17:15:50Z")
Once again no coverage of Watkins statement on fox news. Bartender faces of the parties, Jessica Watkins vs. AOC. I do not use Facebook so I am not familiar with Facebook messenger the platform Watkins and the other Oath Keeper seditionists used to communicate during their attempt to murder members of congress and others. Is their a way to trace those messages? They had some vile comments and some very specific real time information during the failed coup. > **[Members of the far-right militia group Oath Keepers used Facebook Messenger...](https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-siege-far-right-rioters-used-facebook-to-hunt-lawmakers-fbi-2021-1)** > > One message to the Oath Keepers, the FBI said, read: "All members are in the tunnels under capitol. Seal them in, turn on the gas." ---
**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474/902 "2021-02-16T15:44:58Z")
Sounds like there’s going to be one of those Congressional commissions to investigate the insurrection. Fine. But do those blue ribbon congressional investigations/committees ever truly accomplish anything? Seems mostly a way for more political posturing. I’d rather focus all resources on criminal prosecution of those responsible. I know that’s still actively happening, but keep after it! [Previous page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474.md?page=44) [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/the-attempted-coup-of-the-united-states-of-america/1474.md?page=46)