# Standards of decorum for a Supreme Court Justice's spouse **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [March 25, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484 "2022-03-25T00:38:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/21 "2022-03-25T16:59:31Z")
> [@Triweasel](#): > > Being detached from reality should disqualify you from service imo. ![image](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a9ef1d258e7a07a0679690e89917c8516ac883fe.png) > **[Fact-checking Sotomayor on kids with severe COVID-19](https://politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/07/sonia-sotomayor/fact-checking-sotomayor-kids-severe-covid-19/)** > > “We have over 100,000 children, which we’ve never had before, in serious condition, and many on ventilators” due to the coronavirus. ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/22 "2022-03-25T17:04:18Z")
> [@Triweasel](#): > > From the snippets they posted in the article it does seem she’s pretty far down the Q rabbit hole. She definitely is, but I think she’s also in a state of mental decline/instability. Which is not separate from the Q rabbit hole but it’s sad she has succumbed to it. I don’t know how I feel about the spouse of a crazy and heavily-biased person serving on the nation’s highest court. I don’t think I could be completely divorced from my partner’s ranting unless I was, well, divorced. Justice Thomas should either go public about his wife’s mental instability and claim neutrality or resign. Regarding @Triweasel saying she doesn’t believe Democrats committed election fraud, not sure how this jives with that: > [@](#): > > Help This Great President stand firm, Mark!!! … You are the leader, with him, who is standing for America’s constitutional governance at the precipice. The majority knows **Biden and the Left is attempting the greatest Heist of our History** ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/23 "2022-03-25T17:35:29Z")
I get that when you really want something to be true it’s way easier to find evidence to support your goal. That happens all the time. But, the evidence she was looking for was that there really was felony fraud. She wanted someone to bring the evidence forward. And, presumably have law enforcement investigate and arrest people who were truly guilty. And, get the correct vote totals without the criminal fraud. She wasn’t saying (in these text messages) “Sure, Biden won a majority of the electoral votes fairly. But, he’d make a terrible president, let’s storm the capitol and keep Congress from certifying that.” The second is “insurrection”, the first isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/24 "2022-03-25T17:37:20Z")
> [@Triweasel](#): > > For most positions I would agree, but SCOTUS is a different category imo. Especially in this case since it could have a huge impact on the core function of our government. Being detached from reality should disqualify you from service imo. Well, maybe it should, but I’m pretty sure there’s nothing in the constitution about that for supreme court justices. Also, there isn’t any obvious evidence that he’s gone down that rabbit hole. I don’t think we even _should_ impeach people for having a crazy or disabled spouse. Perhaps, like Sandra day O’Connor, he should resign to care for his spouse. But it seems reasonable to leave that up to him. ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/25 "2022-03-25T17:42:41Z")
> note that 20 of the texts were sent before Nov 24 I think this is relevant to the Clarence part of this. After sending 20 text messages in 20 days, she suddenly goes silent and doesn’t send another until Jan 10. What could have caused that dramatic change? My “most plausible” is that she shared what she was doing with her husband. He made two pretty obvious observations: – There’s a good chance one or more of these fraud charges shows up at the Supreme Court and I’ll want to be part of the ruling. – Washington DC is about as leakproof as a sieve. There’s also a good chance Gini’s text messages will be out in public before that case hits the SC. And, he drew the obvious conclusion “Gini dear, if you want me to be part of panel that decides these things, you can’t be leaving a paper trail like that.” ---
**Author:** ![SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveWhite)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/26 "2022-03-25T17:49:54Z")
![Screen Shot 2022-03-25 at 1.47.04 PM](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3f4918da6b70b851904f0c1474a1b3450af4cfbd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/27 "2022-03-25T17:59:23Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > But, the evidence she was looking for was that there really was felony fraud. She wanted someone to bring the evidence forward. And, presumably have law enforcement investigate and arrest people who were truly guilty. And, get the correct vote totals without the criminal fraud. I agree with your first sentence. The second is sort of true, but there were dozens of investigations and lawsuits in multiple states that proved it was all BS that she was clearly aware of. She was a true believer though. The third is sort of true in that she wanted Biden and the Democrats jailed. The fourth is false IMO. Ginny Thomas was on the board of CNP Action, the group who lead the push to have select states submit phony electors certifying Trump won. There was no attempt at accurate recounts or fraud investigation in those states in this effort, nor any evidence Trump could possibly have won a majority there. Ignore the vote completely and certify Trump won was the goal. ---
**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/28 "2022-03-25T18:00:09Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > And, he drew the obvious conclusion “Gini dear, if you want me to be part of panel that decides these things, you can’t be leaving a paper trail like that.” This seems likely ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/29 "2022-03-25T18:16:42Z")
> [@ArthurItas](#): > > Ginny Thomas was on the board of CNP Action, the group Okay, that’s relevant. I was looking at what the texts indicate. Again, note the timing of the texts. Barr wouldn’t make his ‘FBI has found no evidence of fraud’ until Dec 1, and even then a true believer could think the FBI wasn’t looking hard enough. ---
**Author:** ![Triweasel](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/triweasel/32/159_2.png) [@Triweasel](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Triweasel)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/30 "2022-03-25T18:26:20Z")
> [@Lucy](#): > > I don’t think we even _should_ impeach people for having a crazy or disabled spouse. Of course. I’m saying that if he espoused the same delusions that she did he should be impeached, but even then I don’t see it happening. It’s possible there is nothing in the constitution about problems pertaining to SCOTUS senility or impairment because they didn’t think it would ever be an issue. Maybe people didn’t typically live long enough to lose their faculties as much as today. It really should be addressed tho. ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/31 "2022-03-25T18:35:07Z")
> [@Triweasel](#): > > problems pertaining to SCOTUS senility or impairment SCOTUS needs term limits. Not just a handful of years, but something forcing them out. 18 years? 22? I don’t know, but people in their 70s-80s deciding our future is worrisome, and this is a clear example of that. ---
**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/32 "2022-03-25T19:03:58Z")
> [@Lucy](#): > > I don’t think we even _should_ impeach people for having a crazy or disabled spouse. Not even Edith Wilson? ---
**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/33 "2022-03-25T19:12:07Z")
I think the issue there was more his stroke than her mental health. ---
**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/34 "2022-03-25T19:13:58Z")
:oyh: ---
**Author:** ![Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/maphistos_sidekick/32/84973_2.png) [@Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Maphistos_Sidekick)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/35 "2022-03-25T19:36:17Z")
> [@Rastiln](#): > > SCOTUS needs term limits. Not just a handful of years, but something forcing them out. 18 years? 22? I don’t know, but people in their 70s-80s deciding our future is worrisome, and this is a clear example of that. 18 years, phased in such that we achieve a routine rhythm of one SCOTUS Justice retiring each odd-numbered year (barring vacancies for other reasons). We’ve reached a point where politics is manifesting by Justices hanging around in office longer than they should, in the hopes of retiring when either a D or R President is in office, and where Presidents are making a point of appointing younger Justices in the hopes of keeping that seat occupied with someone of a political persuasion longer. ---
**Author:** ![J0EBL0W](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/j0ebl0w/32/933_2.png) [@J0EBL0W](https://community.goactuary.com/u/J0EBL0W)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/36 "2022-03-25T19:48:13Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > The quotes I’ve seen don’t seem to be “advocating insurrection”. She thought the Ds committed election fraud and wanted someone to get to the bottom of it. Falling for a conspiracy theory that you want to believe is not the same as advocating insurrection. It’s hard to believe that she is this dumb. She has a law degree and is married to a SCOTUS justice. However, if those texts are to be taken at face value, she is completely lost. ---
**Author:** ![magillaG](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@magillaG](https://community.goactuary.com/u/magillaG)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/37 "2022-03-25T19:58:53Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > But, the evidence she was looking for was that there really was felony fraud The administration as a whole wasn’t just looking for fraud. This wasn’t a secret investigation by the doj (or not just that.) It was broadcasting these messages they should have know were false. It was submitting court cases based on such bad evidence that lawyers have been disciplined. In other words, it was a propaganda effort, not really a search for truth. Sending these texts to the administration is very different from sending them to most people. It moves her position from the sphere of her private thoughts into public policy, and potentially makes her partially responsible for the propaganda effort. I would more closely agree with your position if she had instead sent them to some random friends who were not creating the propaganda effort. I do agree it is hard to know much without all the texts, and the context. And i can’t even read the WP article. ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/38 "2022-03-25T20:45:47Z")
> [@Lucy](#): > > I don’t think being stupid or deluded are grounds for impeachment. Even less so having a stupid or deluded spouse. ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/39 "2022-03-25T20:53:50Z")
Yeah, Sotomayor was wrong to say that. Did she ever dial that back and admit that she had her facts wrong? I mean we all make dumb mis-speaks from time to time and that means we’re human, not disqualified for public office. I don’t think Obama deserved the criticism he got for the 57 states comment, nor W for calling Africa a nation. I truly believe that Obama knew how many states there were while campaigning for POTUS and W knew that Africa - where he’s traveled many times - is not a country. It’s just… we all say the wrong thing sometimes. I’m not even slightly a fan of Sotomayor, but if she later admitted that she screwed up, I’m more than willing to extend the benefit of the doubt that she was not intentionally trying to mislead or do anything sinister. It’s when it’s intentional that it’s a problem IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484/40 "2022-03-25T21:15:06Z")
> [@J0EBL0W](#): > > It’s hard to believe that she is this dumb. She has a law degree and is married to a SCOTUS justice. However, if those texts are to be taken at face value, she is completely lost. He’s in his 70s. How old is she? She may be suffering from dementia. Stuff happens to people. My mom was really smart for most of her life, but in her last few month she said some pretty nutty things. [Previous page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/standards-of-decorum-for-a-supreme-court-justices-spouse/5484.md?page=3)