# So uh, do you guys think Putin will invade Ukraine or what **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [December 9, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732 "2021-12-09T16:26:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![magillaG](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@magillaG](https://community.goactuary.com/u/magillaG)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1433 "2023-09-26T20:52:52Z")
I agree the resignation is a bit silly. But reading it more closely, it looks like this guy volunteered with an SS unit after the Nazis took Ukraine. So he was not even some native German we might imagine was pressured into the SS. He was a Ukrainian who volunteered for the worst elements of an occupying power. There may be personal, mitigating circumstances for him, or I may misunderstand the situation, but on paper it sounds even worse than the headline. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1434 "2023-09-26T22:00:21Z")
> [@Rastiln](#): > > Especially when Americans are presently bringing Nazis back, and it’s spilled into Canada as well. “Build that wall!!” ---
**Author:** ![SpaceLobster](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/spacelobster/32/38216_2.png) [@SpaceLobster](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SpaceLobster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1435 "2023-09-26T22:45:36Z")
Yeah, head scratching on why he resigned. He made a mistake, not even a mistake of character. It was just information he wasn’t aware of. That’s a ‘sorry’, not a quit your career. ---
**Author:** ![Snikelfritz](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/snikelfritz/32/5728_2.png) [@Snikelfritz](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Snikelfritz)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1436 "2023-09-27T01:52:25Z")
Someone needed to be blamed, he was the easiest. I think it’s best he quit. I’m ok with him staying as an MP though to avoid a costly by election. ---
**Author:** ![Busy\_Bee4422](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/busy_bee4422/32/69948_2.png) [@Busy\_Bee4422](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Busy_Bee4422)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 9:42am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1437 "2023-09-27T09:42:44Z")
I may be wrong but I am not pursuaded that ignorance is a plausible excuse in this issue. The event happened Friday and now less than a week later we know quite a bit of the man’s nazi history. It seems as if it wasn’t that hard to ferret out the man’s history. Taken together with it being alleged that parliament didnt include gvt in these invitations it just looks like sloppy work. If the speaker hadn’t brought specific attention to the man this wouldn’t have been an issue anyway. ---
**Author:** ![magillaG](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@magillaG](https://community.goactuary.com/u/magillaG)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1438 "2023-09-27T15:24:12Z")
It’s hard to judge without knowing the opportunity cost of investigating this guy more. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1439 "2023-09-27T16:16:51Z")
The Conservative Party leader in Canada is not going to let this story go away. I agree it showed an embarrassing amount of incompetence but a Trudeau apology accomplishes little or nothing as he has already admitted it was an embarrassment. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/yaroslav-hunka-fallout-1.6979628](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/yaroslav-hunka-fallout-1.6979628) ---
**Author:** ![SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveWhite)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1440 "2023-09-27T16:38:06Z")
> [@](#): > > extending an invite to a Ukrainian veteran who fought with a Nazi unit to attend a parliamentary function is the ‘biggest single diplomatic embarrassment’ in the country’s history If that’s the biggest, Canada’s has a record to be very proud of. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1441 "2023-09-27T17:24:31Z")
Our Conservative Party leader has a tendency towards hyperbole. Seems to be a common malady of the Right. ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1442 "2023-09-27T17:55:38Z")
It’s nice to know that insufferable blowhards are common in democracies, and not a unique symptom of America. ---
**Author:** ![vjvj](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vjvj/32/406_2.png) [@vjvj](https://community.goactuary.com/u/vjvj)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1443 "2023-09-27T18:05:42Z")
It doesn’t seem that surprising that it wouldn’t have gotten noticed to me. That is, it would never have occurred to me that you’d have to check a Ukrainian for a Nazi background. But then, I’m not in government. ---
**Author:** ![vjvj](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vjvj/32/406_2.png) [@vjvj](https://community.goactuary.com/u/vjvj)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1444 "2023-09-27T18:07:11Z")
I should fix it to say “But then, I"m not in politics”, which I’d think is the more important thing here. ---
**Author:** ![soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/soyleche/32/42_2.png) [@soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/u/soyleche)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1445 "2023-09-27T19:06:16Z")
A lot of Ukrainians did support hitler, but their other option was Stalin, so… Joining the SS is a bigger step than just supporting, but I’m not sure I would have thought to check for that. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1446 "2023-09-28T07:30:13Z")
> [@vjvj](#): > > it would never have occurred to me that you’d have to check a Ukrainian for a Nazi background. There were a large number of Ukrainians with Nazi connections who came to Canada after WW2 so it would be expected that Canadian government officials should do the check. ---
**Author:** ![Snikelfritz](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/snikelfritz/32/5728_2.png) [@Snikelfritz](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Snikelfritz)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1447 "2023-09-28T12:33:36Z")
As historical background, Stalin had just finished killing a few million Ukrainians through starvation shortly before the nazis invaded (Holodomor). So I’m not saying supporting the nazis was ok, but I can see feeling somewhat liberated by them for a bit. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss… ETA “Areas depopulated by the famine were resettled by Russians in the Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, but not as much so in central Ukraine.” > **[Holodomor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor)** > > The Holodomor,\[a\] also known as the Ukrainian famine,\[b\] was a massive man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. The Holodomor was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1930–1933 which affected the major grain-producing areas of the Soviet Union. While scholars agree the famine was primarily man-made, it remains in dispute whether the Holodomor was intentional, whether it was directed at Ukrainians, and whether it constitutes a genocide, the point of ... ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1448 "2023-10-03T21:26:50Z")
> [@Cooke](#): > > I tend to agree. It was obvious the Speaker did not know he was praising an ex-Nazi. I was a bit surprised he felt he had to resign. It was a case of incompetence by the folks who put this fellow forward. At least the process to replace the Speaker of the House went smoothly and Canada now has its first Black Speaker. [https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6984673](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6984673) ---
**Author:** ![Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jasper07734/32/24056_2.png) [@Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Jasper07734)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1449 "2023-11-02T15:48:26Z")
> **[Putin pulls Russia out of nuclear test ban treaty](https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-pulls-russia-nuclear-test-ban-treaty)** > > Russia President Vladimir Putin has formally withdrawn the country from the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, citing a desire for parity with Western powers. WW3/live-action Fallout game incoming? Been nice knowing most of you. ---
**Author:** ![OldTimer](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/8797f3/32.png) [@OldTimer](https://community.goactuary.com/u/OldTimer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1450 "2023-11-02T20:34:43Z")
Is he dead or not? Interesting article. [https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4283716-reports-of-putins-death-might-not-be-greatly-exaggerated/](https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4283716-reports-of-putins-death-might-not-be-greatly-exaggerated/) ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1451 "2023-11-02T20:48:41Z")
Interesting indeed but I am betting that the rumours of his death have been greatly exaggerated. ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732/1452 "2024-01-24T13:17:03Z")
> **[Russian military plane crashes near Belgorod | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-military-plane-belgorod-ukraine-updates-intl/index.html)** > > Russia accused Ukraine of downing a military plane near the Ukrainian border Wednesday, saying all 74 people on board were killed including dozens of Ukrainian service members being transported for a prisoner swap. Ukraine shoots down a Russian plane designed for transport, but not designed for human transport beyond a small crew. Russia claims it had numerous Ukrainian POWs. Ukraine claims Russia was transporting missiles. Many news agencies seem to be taking Russian reporting of the death count for their headlines, then buried in the second paragraph will say “we could not confirm this”. Ukraine has confirmed there was going to be a prisoner swap that is currently not happening. If not for Ukraine’s statement I’d immediately assume Russia was lying, but it seems possible POWs were killed now. It also could have been both POWs and missiles. It sounds very on-brand for Russia to protect its military assets with POW human shields. [Previous page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732.md?page=70) [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/so-uh-do-you-guys-think-putin-will-invade-ukraine-or-what/4732.md?page=72)